To: Chairman IESM
Dear Sir,
1. In continuation of our interaction with the IESM during the last few weeks, we a few members of the Club-20, who are in Delhi have planned to visit the IESM Shamiyana on Jantar Mantar Road on 11 Jan 09, at 1100 Hrs to confirm our solidarity with the IESM by garlanding the 6 veterans currently on hunger strike/fast unto death. It will infact be our honour to meet them in person and express our gratitude for holding this beacon of light so bravely.
2. Just by way of introduction, we wish to apprise your good-self that Club-20 is an informal group of retired IAF engineer officers (of DEO-20: Directly Entry Course-20, of 1962 batch) who are in the age band of 70+1 and are spread all over India, on settlement after retirement. Although the number is not very large but we keep in touch with each other through internet. It is while surfing your web/blog that we learnt details of IESM and now feel proud that we are a part of it.
3. The IES Movement is definitely a monumental stride by the IES for not only creating awareness among the retirees but also a great source of inspiration for others. it is, infact, a matter of time when the whole country will notice and appreciate it. And the GOI will recognise it.
4. With regards and good wishes for the IESM
I.Jairath
Gp Capt (Retd)
Member Club-20
Saturday, January 10, 2009
IESM: Discriminatory Pension Tables further distorted by SCPC
The IESM has very strongly taken up the demand of One Rank One Pension (OROP). It is the bounden duty of every ESM to strengthen the Movement by joining it with physical moral and spiritual support to get “Justice for the Defence Service”. The present system of giving less pension to the older pensioners is discriminatory. It leads to serious intra-rank and even inter-rank distortions as seen from the following tables:
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
NB
Pre 01.01.96 Lt Col (TS)
Basic pension: Rs7350 Revised pension: Rs16611
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
NB
Pre 01.01.96 Lt Col (TS)
Basic pension: Rs7350 Revised pension: Rs16611
SCPC: Payment of Pensions
Dear James,
Officers are being paid pensions thru banks, who are working out the entitlements of arrears etc based on directives from the MOD. A number of banks are invloved taking in to account that veteran officers are living all over India. Different banks are likely to interpret and authorise varied pension entitlements for offcers of same rank or authorise incorrect amounts. WHO IN THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO CHECK AND ENSURE THAT ALL VETERAN OFFICERS GET CORRECT AMOUNT OF PENSION!!
As far as I know, after a Pay Commission, the CDA should issue PPO to each officer and the bank concerned. Officers will then know their entiltements and check that they are getting the dues correctly.
Some veterans living in Delhi may kindly check with the Army HQ the procedure being adopted. The same can be communicated thru this Blog.
Best wishes.
Lt Gen Harbhajan Singh
Dear General Harbhajan,
Thanks. I checked with IOB (my bankers) and really what they have is copy of the 95 paged Pension Table. In fact I helped the Pension clerk to interpret and cross check the the amounts from the table. The bank has the original PPO copy which indicates the Pension, Commutation and number of years of service. The current PPO's as you have indicated would be the correct one. This is required to be updated periodically by CDA Pensions and issued to bankers. What I believe now, is that Pensions are outsourced to the bankers for implementation. Each bank has a software that works out all the arrears as on Sep 2008 once the basic pay as on 01 Jan 2006 and number of years service is fed as input. I am yet to get the print out of my arrears as a bank statement. I need to get the latest PPO from CDA.
I think the MOD needs to do a lot more to set right the chaos created by the banks. I am amazed by the callous way the Pensions of ESM are treated. We need to get to know who is really responsible for this state, the CDA, MOD or the Bankers. To me it appears like it is chugging the typical bureaucracy roller coaster. However the flip side is that the arrears have been credited and Pension enhanced by approx 35% in my case. Certainly we will post all details regarding Pension in the blog as and when we get inputs.
Regards and best wishes,
Lt Col James Kanagaraj
Ex Servicemen are invited to send in their observations/ suggestions for effective mechanism to ensure that Pension Arrears and Fixation of Pension and ultimate credit in their accounts. The issues related to PBOR is more complex especially for pre- 1996 retirees. In the absence of date of birth, grade or rank equivalent (some grades merged) the correct fixation is held up in many cases. However banks are cooperative in that arrears and fixation of Pension is effected temporarily. We like to hear more from you.......
Officers are being paid pensions thru banks, who are working out the entitlements of arrears etc based on directives from the MOD. A number of banks are invloved taking in to account that veteran officers are living all over India. Different banks are likely to interpret and authorise varied pension entitlements for offcers of same rank or authorise incorrect amounts. WHO IN THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO CHECK AND ENSURE THAT ALL VETERAN OFFICERS GET CORRECT AMOUNT OF PENSION!!
As far as I know, after a Pay Commission, the CDA should issue PPO to each officer and the bank concerned. Officers will then know their entiltements and check that they are getting the dues correctly.
Some veterans living in Delhi may kindly check with the Army HQ the procedure being adopted. The same can be communicated thru this Blog.
Best wishes.
Lt Gen Harbhajan Singh
Dear General Harbhajan,
Thanks. I checked with IOB (my bankers) and really what they have is copy of the 95 paged Pension Table. In fact I helped the Pension clerk to interpret and cross check the the amounts from the table. The bank has the original PPO copy which indicates the Pension, Commutation and number of years of service. The current PPO's as you have indicated would be the correct one. This is required to be updated periodically by CDA Pensions and issued to bankers. What I believe now, is that Pensions are outsourced to the bankers for implementation. Each bank has a software that works out all the arrears as on Sep 2008 once the basic pay as on 01 Jan 2006 and number of years service is fed as input. I am yet to get the print out of my arrears as a bank statement. I need to get the latest PPO from CDA.
I think the MOD needs to do a lot more to set right the chaos created by the banks. I am amazed by the callous way the Pensions of ESM are treated. We need to get to know who is really responsible for this state, the CDA, MOD or the Bankers. To me it appears like it is chugging the typical bureaucracy roller coaster. However the flip side is that the arrears have been credited and Pension enhanced by approx 35% in my case. Certainly we will post all details regarding Pension in the blog as and when we get inputs.
Regards and best wishes,
Lt Col James Kanagaraj
Ex Servicemen are invited to send in their observations/ suggestions for effective mechanism to ensure that Pension Arrears and Fixation of Pension and ultimate credit in their accounts. The issues related to PBOR is more complex especially for pre- 1996 retirees. In the absence of date of birth, grade or rank equivalent (some grades merged) the correct fixation is held up in many cases. However banks are cooperative in that arrears and fixation of Pension is effected temporarily. We like to hear more from you.......
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