Dear Veterans,
The lull that has set in is disturbing; no matter if it is the lull before the storm of forceful activity or that of complacence.
Let us review the status of Armed Forces Veteran's Pension Demand (AVPD)(click here for meaning of AVPD). True to the President’s command, the Cabinet Secretary with the able assistance of six more Secretaries from the various Departments and Ministries came up with indisputable facts (so called) from the existing records and convincingly concluded that the demand of OROP is not justified. How many promises, reviews and conclusions to deny OROP and how many more are likely to be, I wonder. The pity is that the so called facts are based on irrelevant statements from basically the Legal and Financial departments. But irrelevant or not, the conclusion is so convincing that the RM feels bound by the recommendations, that in his DOL dated 16th Aug addressed to me, he has conveyed that the recommendations are under implementation.
What did we do, when the CS was asked to make his recommendation? Did we make any effective step to ask for a discussion with either the CS or the Ministers? I sent a paper, which a few of you found to bring out our demand fairly emphatically, to the RM requesting him to forward to the CS. He appears to have done so and the CS has brushed it aside with one single comment under Para 5.1 heading Option 1, incorrectly interpreting. The voice of a single insignificant veteran is worse than silence. The fact that none, none indeed of the ESM community, felt the need to follow my paper in any manner or to initiate suitable action to profess our demand, immediately on hearing of the assignment to the CS, speaks volumes of our intentions and efforts to achieve our ambition to restore justice denied to us over decades. Let us introspect. Where do we stand?
Nothing is lost as yet. I sense that the MoD is reluctant to act on the CS’s Report. They want effective counter arguments from ESM community, based on logic, to overrule the recommendations. Well, I have done what best I could. I have sent my analysis to the RM, on 3rd Sep. IESL has done what they could. They presented a brief to the RRM on 16th Sep. Are these efforts good enough and representative of the whole of ESM community, esp., when the Ministry is aware of the existence of far too many associations and their not seeing eye to eye even in preparation of two page representation to the PM, leave alone on a proposal on AVPD?
This is an appeal to everyone of the net savvy veterans to introspect and rally together to take a most effective step to impress upon the Government, to hear us out in a systematic manner before initiating action on the CS’s Report. By any chance the words are found a bid hard hitting, forgive me. It is not with intention to hurt but only to emphasize.
Regards,
Maj Gen RN Radhakrishnan (Retd)
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Wednesday, September 30, 2009
Friday, September 18, 2009
IESM: Mission, Vision, Core Values & Goals
Elucidated from Memorandum of Association- INDIAN EX SERVICEMEN MOVEMENT
Mission Statement
To care for those who have battled and preserved the security of the Nation, by serving and honouring the men and women who are Ex- Servicemen.
Vision
To provide them the best benefits and services they have earned– and to do so by adhering to the highest standards of compassion, commitment, excellence, professionalism, integrity, accountability, and stewardship.
Core Values
Compassion– We will treat all ESM and their families with the utmost dignity and compassion. We will provide services in a caring manner, with a sympathetic consciousness of others’ distress together with a desire to alleviate it.
Commitment– ESM have earned our gratitude and respect. Their health care, pension benefits, and memorial service needs to drive our actions.
Excellence– We strive to exceed the expectations of ESM and their families. We strive to perform at the highest level of competence and take pride in our accomplishments.
Professionalism– Our success depends on maintaining a highly-skilled, diverse, and compassionate volunteers and governing body. We foster a culture that values equal opportunity, innovation, and accountability.
Integrity– We recognize the importance of accurate information. We practice open, truthful, and timely communication with ESM, and GOI agencies chiefly under the MOD. By carefully listening and responding to their concerns, we seek continuous improvement in our programs and services.
Accountability– We will perform in a manner at all times that makes us accountable, responsible, and answerable to ESM and their families, our leaders and other external Government and Non- Government agencies.
Governance– We will ensure responsible management of the human, financial, and natural resources as well as data and information entrusted to us. We will improve performance through the use of innovative technologies, evidence- based practices, and sound welfare principles.
Strategic and Enabling Goals
Goal 1– Restore the capability of ESM with disabilities to the greatest extent possible, and improve the quality of their lives and that of their families.
Goal 2– Ensure a smooth transition for ESM from active military service to civilian life.
Goal 3– Honour and serve ESM in life, and memorialize them in death for their sacrifices on behalf of the Nation.
Goal 4– Contribute to the ESM and Public health, emergency management, socio-economic well-being, and history of the Nation.
Enabling Goal– Deliver best service to ESM and their families through effective communication and management of people, technology, business processes, and financial resources.
Mission Statement
To care for those who have battled and preserved the security of the Nation, by serving and honouring the men and women who are Ex- Servicemen.
Vision
To provide them the best benefits and services they have earned– and to do so by adhering to the highest standards of compassion, commitment, excellence, professionalism, integrity, accountability, and stewardship.
Core Values
Compassion– We will treat all ESM and their families with the utmost dignity and compassion. We will provide services in a caring manner, with a sympathetic consciousness of others’ distress together with a desire to alleviate it.
Commitment– ESM have earned our gratitude and respect. Their health care, pension benefits, and memorial service needs to drive our actions.
Excellence– We strive to exceed the expectations of ESM and their families. We strive to perform at the highest level of competence and take pride in our accomplishments.
Professionalism– Our success depends on maintaining a highly-skilled, diverse, and compassionate volunteers and governing body. We foster a culture that values equal opportunity, innovation, and accountability.
Integrity– We recognize the importance of accurate information. We practice open, truthful, and timely communication with ESM, and GOI agencies chiefly under the MOD. By carefully listening and responding to their concerns, we seek continuous improvement in our programs and services.
Accountability– We will perform in a manner at all times that makes us accountable, responsible, and answerable to ESM and their families, our leaders and other external Government and Non- Government agencies.
Governance– We will ensure responsible management of the human, financial, and natural resources as well as data and information entrusted to us. We will improve performance through the use of innovative technologies, evidence- based practices, and sound welfare principles.
Strategic and Enabling Goals
Goal 1– Restore the capability of ESM with disabilities to the greatest extent possible, and improve the quality of their lives and that of their families.
Goal 2– Ensure a smooth transition for ESM from active military service to civilian life.
Goal 3– Honour and serve ESM in life, and memorialize them in death for their sacrifices on behalf of the Nation.
Goal 4– Contribute to the ESM and Public health, emergency management, socio-economic well-being, and history of the Nation.
Enabling Goal– Deliver best service to ESM and their families through effective communication and management of people, technology, business processes, and financial resources.
Monday, September 14, 2009
Ex-servicemen returns 5,000 service medals; demands OROP
New Delhi, Sept 13 Ex-servicemen today returned about 5,000 service medals to the President in protest against the government&aposs"total apathetic attitude"towards their demand of One Rank One Pension (OROP).
A ten-member team led by General (Retd) B K Renjan returned the medals, which 4,000 ex-servicemen had voluntarily deposited, to the President, Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, vice-chairman of the Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM), said.
The organisation deposited the service medals" to make the government see the demands", he added.
"It is because of the bureaucracy and political parties that our demands remain unaddressed. Why does the government not meet the demands of the most strongest pillar of democracy?" Singh asked.
The creation of two groups -pre 2006 and post 2006- by the government had led to "a wide gap" in the pension scale for the various ranks, he said.
"A Havildar gets less than a Sepoy. A Major General gets less than Lt Colonel who is four ranks junior to the former. There is only a difference of some 1,000 rupees among the four ranks between Lt Col and Major General,"he said.
According to the IESM, the retired personnels had earlier returned around 15,000 medals and this was the fifth time when the organisation has deposited the medals to the President.
Ex-servicemen returns 5,000 service medals; demands OROP
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Miffed Ex- servicemen return 5000 medals: Times of India
Ex-servicemen to return medals to President seeking OROP
One Rank-One Pension: Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
A ten-member team led by General (Retd) B K Renjan returned the medals, which 4,000 ex-servicemen had voluntarily deposited, to the President, Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, vice-chairman of the Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM), said.
The organisation deposited the service medals" to make the government see the demands", he added.
"It is because of the bureaucracy and political parties that our demands remain unaddressed. Why does the government not meet the demands of the most strongest pillar of democracy?" Singh asked.
The creation of two groups -pre 2006 and post 2006- by the government had led to "a wide gap" in the pension scale for the various ranks, he said.
"A Havildar gets less than a Sepoy. A Major General gets less than Lt Colonel who is four ranks junior to the former. There is only a difference of some 1,000 rupees among the four ranks between Lt Col and Major General,"he said.
According to the IESM, the retired personnels had earlier returned around 15,000 medals and this was the fifth time when the organisation has deposited the medals to the President.
Ex-servicemen returns 5,000 service medals; demands OROP
Related Reading:
Miffed Ex- servicemen return 5000 medals: Times of India
Ex-servicemen to return medals to President seeking OROP
One Rank-One Pension: Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Tuesday, September 1, 2009
PBOR: Acronym coined by MoD
It would be interesting to Know as to who coined the Abbreviation PBOR. I retired in 1985 till the then it was Officers, JCOs and Jawans . Even a NCO is an officer in military parlance. The term, though bringing brevity in speech and writing, is hurting the feelings of JCOs and equivalent ranks of Air force and Navy and it is high time that we reverted back to the old system of classifying the service personnel..
Brig Lakshman Singh
Comments
The acronym PBOR has been coined by MoD and AHQ who have classified JCOs and NCOs as Personnel Below Officer Rank probably after the 5th Central Pay Commission recommendations were implemented. This is extension of degradation of the Armed Forces by bureaucrats and the AHQ staff have fallen prey to actively participate in reducing the "Rank and Honour" of the Armed Forces. Other possible definitions of PBOR:
Partial Bladder Outlet Reconstruction
Patients Bill of Rights
Programmable Brown Out Reset
Personnel Below Officers Rank
Pagan Bill of Rights
PhpBB Backup Offline Reader
Pittsburg Board of Realtors
Monday, August 31, 2009
Ex-servicemen to return medals to President seeking OROP
Published: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 at 19:18 IST
New Delhi, Aug 28 Sticking to their 'One Rank-One Pension' demand, the Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM) today said the armed forces' veterans will return their gallantry medals to the President on September 13.
"We will deposit our medals with the President on September 13 and continue to demand for the implementation of the OROP in totality," IESM Chairman Lieutenant General Raj Kadyan (retd) told reporters here.
"Till now, we have deposited 15,000 medals with the President in three instalments and will continue to do so in future also," Kadyan claimed.
Under the OROP demand, the ex-servicemen personnel have been seeking that personnel retiring from a same rank after having served for equal number of years should get same pension irrespective of the date and time of retirement. With the implementation of each pay commission, the gap between the pension amount increases.
IESM claimed that the government had created an impression that the OROP demand was accepted but its recent steps in this regard had just helped in equating pre-1997 and post-1997 pensioners and the difference in pensions still existed.
There are nearly 20 lakh ex-servicemen in the country.
Ex-servicemen to return medals to President seeking OROP: samaylive
Text of PM's Independence Day Address
We are proud of our brave soldiers. It is our duty to ensure that ex-servicemen are able to lead a life of comfort. Have accepted the recommendations of the committee on the issue of pension of ex-servicemen. This will benefit 12 lakh retired jawans and JCOs.
Grievance meeting held for ex-servicemen of 11 districts in Tamilnadu
The Army Record offices were being computerised and the veterans could access their records from home through Internet. Brigadier Jadhav apprised the veterans of the various schemes that had been initiated by the Central Government and Army Headquarters to improve the financial benefits and quality of life for the ex-servicemen. He also explained the various provisions of Sixth Pay Commission.
New Delhi, Aug 28 Sticking to their 'One Rank-One Pension' demand, the Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM) today said the armed forces' veterans will return their gallantry medals to the President on September 13.
"We will deposit our medals with the President on September 13 and continue to demand for the implementation of the OROP in totality," IESM Chairman Lieutenant General Raj Kadyan (retd) told reporters here.
"Till now, we have deposited 15,000 medals with the President in three instalments and will continue to do so in future also," Kadyan claimed.
Under the OROP demand, the ex-servicemen personnel have been seeking that personnel retiring from a same rank after having served for equal number of years should get same pension irrespective of the date and time of retirement. With the implementation of each pay commission, the gap between the pension amount increases.
IESM claimed that the government had created an impression that the OROP demand was accepted but its recent steps in this regard had just helped in equating pre-1997 and post-1997 pensioners and the difference in pensions still existed.
There are nearly 20 lakh ex-servicemen in the country.
Ex-servicemen to return medals to President seeking OROP: samaylive
Text of PM's Independence Day Address
Grievance meeting held for ex-servicemen of 11 districts in Tamilnadu
The Army Record offices were being computerised and the veterans could access their records from home through Internet. Brigadier Jadhav apprised the veterans of the various schemes that had been initiated by the Central Government and Army Headquarters to improve the financial benefits and quality of life for the ex-servicemen. He also explained the various provisions of Sixth Pay Commission.
Thursday, August 27, 2009
Maj Gen and Joint Secretary work equation?
The members of the armed forces perform arduous nature of duty both in field and peace station. Therefore, considering their job weight the members of the armed forces may be given all parity with civil servants apart from attractive other benefits. While a Joint Secretary in a Dept. deals with purely administrative matters of one or two Divisions, a corresponding level officer of the army i.e. Major General is responsible for mobilization of his force comprising three Brigades, each Brigade comprising 3 Battalions and each Battalion comprising 800-1000 persons. A sample survey conducted by the organization in one of the central ministry reveals that there are 300 posts at HQs and a field staff and officers of 3500 under the control of a Secretary and 4 Joint Secretaries. One Joint Secretary is given dairy development activities & poultry activities with full complement of technical officers and other staff, another Joint Secretary is given animal health & animal production with a stream of technical & subordinate officers, third Joint Secretary is assigned the fisheries division, fourth Joint Secretary is made responsible for administration of 300 staff & officers at HQs. The travels on official tours conducted by these senior officers indicate that they are out of the Headquarters most of the times on foreign tours as, for the implementation of schemes, the Govt. of India has to borrow or import technology from foreign countries, whereas the subject matter is purely a state matter. A Major General made equivalent to a JS, has to control and command over 9000 officers and staff in the field as well as in the peace areas with 24 hours preparedness to deal with insurgency, terrorist hunt, natural calamity, civil commotion etc. This comparative study reveals that the senior bureaucrat and other civilian employees of the central Govt. have around 254 working days out of which they avail 30 day's EL, 20 day's Half Pay Leave apart from 8 day's Casual Leave and 2 Restricted Holidays. As the defence service personnel are stationed in the field areas and also in difficult terrains in the defence of this nation, their pay and other benefits should be made at least at par with the all India Service officers and other similar civil servants.
By:-Association of Citizens Charter Empowerment and Social Service Delhi
Extracted from:
Questionnaire Wise Responses: Sixth Central Pay Commission
By:-Association of Citizens Charter Empowerment and Social Service Delhi
Extracted from:
Questionnaire Wise Responses: Sixth Central Pay Commission
Wednesday, August 26, 2009
IESM: Return of Military Medals to the President
Dear Friends,
1. This is to prepare ourselves for the event of depositing of our Gallantry Medals on 13 Sep 2009. Every segment of society gets its due only when they Unite and fight for their rights. Kautaly’s advice to King Maurya has been totally forgotten by the Govt in the case of the Indian Soldiers today. While we are totally committed to the peaceful Movement in a dignified manner remaining within the confines of discipline and democratic norms, we need to solidly unite. Government takes serious note of our legitimate demands. Depositing of medals has been one of most successful strategy of our Movement. It is with great anguish and hurt feelings, we are once again depositing our medals with the President.
2. In our country today, the numbers matter. There is therefore, need to put in hard efforts in collection and deposit of medals on the 13th Sep 2009. All ESM Organisations and ESM are requested to go all out and collect maximum medals for deposition with the President.
3. IESM conveners at all levels are requested to organize the collection of medals and duly packed with details, send these to IESM HQ at 543 Sector 23 Gurgaon/ bring it along when you come for 30 Aug 2009 meeting/ deposit on 13 Sep 2009 at Jantar Mantar from 9 AM to 2 PM. Maximum Publicity is Requested Please.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
1. This is to prepare ourselves for the event of depositing of our Gallantry Medals on 13 Sep 2009. Every segment of society gets its due only when they Unite and fight for their rights. Kautaly’s advice to King Maurya has been totally forgotten by the Govt in the case of the Indian Soldiers today. While we are totally committed to the peaceful Movement in a dignified manner remaining within the confines of discipline and democratic norms, we need to solidly unite. Government takes serious note of our legitimate demands. Depositing of medals has been one of most successful strategy of our Movement. It is with great anguish and hurt feelings, we are once again depositing our medals with the President.
2. In our country today, the numbers matter. There is therefore, need to put in hard efforts in collection and deposit of medals on the 13th Sep 2009. All ESM Organisations and ESM are requested to go all out and collect maximum medals for deposition with the President.
3. IESM conveners at all levels are requested to organize the collection of medals and duly packed with details, send these to IESM HQ at 543 Sector 23 Gurgaon/ bring it along when you come for 30 Aug 2009 meeting/ deposit on 13 Sep 2009 at Jantar Mantar from 9 AM to 2 PM. Maximum Publicity is Requested Please.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Tuesday, August 25, 2009
SCPC: Pension anomalies are created by bureaucrats
Date: Saturday, 15 August, 2009, 11:28 AM
Sir,
This is with reference to the injustice done to the Majors in fixing their pensions.
Have the three service chiefs taken any action on the issue of unacceptable level of pension the officers of the rank of 'Major', which is considered a 'senior officer' in the services, have got? It is just ridiculous that an officer just one rank lower than a Lt.Col. and in some cases equal service should get over Rs. 10000/- less. Earlier, Lt Cols were unjustly put in the lower pay band by the 6th CPC just because there is no equivalent grade in the Central Civil Services. And they got their due because the govt capitulated on realising the strong reaction from the serving officers and the service chiefs and its overall repercussions.
It is apparent that the anomalies arise because the CPCs (bureaucrats) first fix the pensions of the CCS and then attempt to find equivalent ranks of personnel in the Armed Forces personnel- both Commissioned officers and PBORs by a method which can be termed "fill in the gaps". They are unable to find precise equivalence because of the fact that the hierarchical structure of the Armed Forces is basically different from that of the CCS. It is a rank structure as distinct from the grade structure in the CCS. This structure has evolved to suit the peculiar nature of their job which is entirely different from that of any civil service job.
So the answer to that is to have a separate Pay Commission for the Armed Forces which the (Prime Minister?) govt has accepted in principle for future. But we need to take care of the present. IESM must take up the case of Majors, Squadron Leaders and Lieutenant Commanders who form the backbone of the officer cadre of the Armed Forces.
The same treatment has been meted out to non-commissioned ranks. The proper terminology for the (Air Force) airmen of the rank of Corporal is non-commissioned officer,Sergeants-Senior Non-Commissioned officer and above are Junior warrant Officers, Warrant Officers and Master Warrant officers. Likewise in the Army and the Navy. So why and when was this term PBOR coined? This was after 1980s. When a class II person in CCS is a called a Section Officer, why are service personnel of Class II gazetted grade called Personnel Below Officer Rank? The aim is clear.
IESM must take up these causes else there will be more 'anomalies' in store for the Armed Forces!
Regards,
Shashank Bendre
Wg.Cdr.(Retd)
Member PC,IESM
Sir,
This is with reference to the injustice done to the Majors in fixing their pensions.
Have the three service chiefs taken any action on the issue of unacceptable level of pension the officers of the rank of 'Major', which is considered a 'senior officer' in the services, have got? It is just ridiculous that an officer just one rank lower than a Lt.Col. and in some cases equal service should get over Rs. 10000/- less. Earlier, Lt Cols were unjustly put in the lower pay band by the 6th CPC just because there is no equivalent grade in the Central Civil Services. And they got their due because the govt capitulated on realising the strong reaction from the serving officers and the service chiefs and its overall repercussions.
It is apparent that the anomalies arise because the CPCs (bureaucrats) first fix the pensions of the CCS and then attempt to find equivalent ranks of personnel in the Armed Forces personnel- both Commissioned officers and PBORs by a method which can be termed "fill in the gaps". They are unable to find precise equivalence because of the fact that the hierarchical structure of the Armed Forces is basically different from that of the CCS. It is a rank structure as distinct from the grade structure in the CCS. This structure has evolved to suit the peculiar nature of their job which is entirely different from that of any civil service job.
So the answer to that is to have a separate Pay Commission for the Armed Forces which the (Prime Minister?) govt has accepted in principle for future. But we need to take care of the present. IESM must take up the case of Majors, Squadron Leaders and Lieutenant Commanders who form the backbone of the officer cadre of the Armed Forces.
The same treatment has been meted out to non-commissioned ranks. The proper terminology for the (Air Force) airmen of the rank of Corporal is non-commissioned officer,Sergeants-Senior Non-Commissioned officer and above are Junior warrant Officers, Warrant Officers and Master Warrant officers. Likewise in the Army and the Navy. So why and when was this term PBOR coined? This was after 1980s. When a class II person in CCS is a called a Section Officer, why are service personnel of Class II gazetted grade called Personnel Below Officer Rank? The aim is clear.
IESM must take up these causes else there will be more 'anomalies' in store for the Armed Forces!
Regards,
Shashank Bendre
Wg.Cdr.(Retd)
Member PC,IESM
Saturday, August 8, 2009
Thoughts on Future Course for Veterans
Thoughts on Future Course for Veterans
My view is that unless the veterans prepare the ground (shaping the battlefield in military parlance), no attempt be made to re-start a confrontational approach. Once the ground work has been laid, a concerted plan must be put into effect. What does preparing the ground entail? In my view it includes the following:
Unity amongst the various veteran groups. In this, the first step may well be unity of purpose, as even this seems to be lacking at present.
The overall focus should be on the long term and not trying to get issues resolved in a hurry. The veterans have woken up after decades; to hope that they will be able to resolve their problems overnight is not possible.
Convincing the people of the justness of the veteran’s case.
A more broad-based objective, covering various facets of problems of the veterans and not focusing exclusively on OROP.
The present perception that the veterans are only seeking more money needs to be changed. The way to do it is to project lowering of status and not lowering of pay/pension. The latter would automatically follow.
Close interaction with the serving community, as it is the only way to get maximum synergy. We need to disabuse the notion that the actions of the veterans will embarrass the serving community. Such notions have little basis, in my view. It is the veterans who have to make such overtures and not the other way around. The serving have the option to go along covertly or overtly or even back out, but this must not deter the veterans.
Building up the various veteran organizations by major membership drives.
Personal reaching out to the rural-based veterans and weaning them away from their present exclusive focus on the different types of elections.
Periodic interaction with the Department of Ex Servicemen Welfare and the personnel directorates of the services headquarters, as also with the Ministers.
Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi (Retd)
Read more for valuable inputs:
Thoughts on Future Course for Veterans
My view is that unless the veterans prepare the ground (shaping the battlefield in military parlance), no attempt be made to re-start a confrontational approach. Once the ground work has been laid, a concerted plan must be put into effect. What does preparing the ground entail? In my view it includes the following:
Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi (Retd)
Read more for valuable inputs:
Thoughts on Future Course for Veterans
Ex Servicemen fighting to debug the skewed Pension Policy
Date: Friday, 7 August, 2009, 8:29 PM
Gentlemen,
Further to our meeting of 9 Jul 09 at IESL HQ, we had another meeting at IESL HQ on 06 Aug 09 through the kind courtesy of Brig RKS Gulia, President IESL. Aim was to discuss the rather obstinate attitude of the Government to deny OROP to officers, JCO/ Warrant officers and OR, despite having been announced by the President of India and the FM in the Parliament.
The following attended the meeting:
a) Brig RKS Gulia, IESL
b) R Adm S Ramsay
c) AVM RP Misra
d) Maj Gen Satbir Singh, IESM
e) Maj Gen P Renjen, IESM
f) Gp Capt Sethi, Air Force Assn
g) AVM JK Pathania
h) Maj Gen RKN Radhakrishnan
i) Yours truly was asked to take the chair
The members discussed firstly, the question of preparing tables of pension entitlement of all ranks and secondly, govt letter dated 15 Jul 09 regarding the implementation of Supreme Court judgement regarding fixation of pension of pre 1996 Maj Gens and the report dated 16 Jul 09 of the Cabinet Secretary on the issue of OROP.
It was decided that pension tables need not be prepared till the govt issues a letter on pension entitlements as per the Cabinet Secretary's report. It was however decided that the Cabinet Secretary's recommendations for not granting OROP be challenged and the fact that despite the SC ruling in favour of pre 1996 Maj Gens, the govt has extended their revised pension only till 1997 and not beyond to 1 Jan 06, be questioned. After discussion it was decided that the following points be covered in a letter to the PM, Defence Minister and the Finance Minister.
a) The definition of OROP stated by the Cabinet Secretary (as defined by a number of ESM orgs to him) in his report be reinforced ie pension should be based on the number of qualifying years of service and rank. Also special terms and conditions in which defence service pers serve should be highlighted and reiterated.
b) No senior rank should draw less pension than a rank junior to him.
c) Three assured career progressions must be assured to PBOR.
d) Fitment should be done at the max of a scale of a rank plus three stagnation increments for superannuating offrs.
e) MSP should be entitled to all ranks from Sepoy to Chief.. No artificial barrier of a salary limit of Addl Secy, Secy or Cab Secy should be laid down to deny senior officers MSP.
Maj Gen Radhakrishnan was requested to draft the letter, which will be circulated to all representative ESM orgs for their views before it is issued. It was also decided that the letter will be signed by Heads of IESL, IESM, Naval Foundation and Air Force Association. As the last IAF CAS is the head of AFA, he should be requested to sign at the head of other signatories.
I would like to put on record that Brig Gulia volunteered to provide staff and logistic support for the above. It must also be appreciated that all Orgs consented to provide full cooperation in making this ESM endeavour a success.
Lt Gen SK Bahri (Retd)
A High-powered Committee of Secretaries looking into the One Rank-One Pension demand put forward by ex-servicemen on Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 presented a concept of ‘modified parity’ to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Read more...
Panel suggests modified parity, new pensions for ex-servicemen
e- Governance, IT, PCDA and ESM Welfare Department
1. Initiate training programs, modules and tools for MOD and PCDA staff to ensure quality and consistency of pension benefits delivery system. The present pension adalats are merely an extension of bureaucratic control lacking feedback and communication with the ESM.
2. A 24 hour Customer service- toll free line for Widows, disabled and pensioners.
3. Central agency for PBORs Pension Rolls updated online from various paying authorities.
4. Information and technology investments- Delivery Network- should be made mandatory and those planned for the future should enable new technologies to be used to facilitate processing of PBORs claims and for providing the vast number of benefits to them and their families. The majority of development in new technology should include the enhancement of the compensation components, development of the Virtual VA imaging solution for compensation and pension, and operation of the program integrity and data management program. Thus ensuring delivery and peaking the Pension Mechanism down to the Treasuries and Bankers. This will facilitate and ensure monthly credit of entitled pensions, into individual accounts, are seamless and routine.
5. IT Support for Education Opportunities, Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment, Housing, and Insurance program be provided to eligible PBORs and their dependents. These programs should rely on supporting IT systems to ensure benefits and services are provided timely and consistently by the support staff at MOD/ Ex Servicemen Welfare Department.
Note: Funds required for toll free line and "ESM Pension Delivery Network" and related IT architecture can be met from Welfare Funds accrued from Flag Day collections and CSD(I) profits which annually runs to over Rs 1000 crores, hence no dearth of funds.
Gentlemen,
Further to our meeting of 9 Jul 09 at IESL HQ, we had another meeting at IESL HQ on 06 Aug 09 through the kind courtesy of Brig RKS Gulia, President IESL. Aim was to discuss the rather obstinate attitude of the Government to deny OROP to officers, JCO/ Warrant officers and OR, despite having been announced by the President of India and the FM in the Parliament.
The following attended the meeting:
a) Brig RKS Gulia, IESL
b) R Adm S Ramsay
c) AVM RP Misra
d) Maj Gen Satbir Singh, IESM
e) Maj Gen P Renjen, IESM
f) Gp Capt Sethi, Air Force Assn
g) AVM JK Pathania
h) Maj Gen RKN Radhakrishnan
i) Yours truly was asked to take the chair
The members discussed firstly, the question of preparing tables of pension entitlement of all ranks and secondly, govt letter dated 15 Jul 09 regarding the implementation of Supreme Court judgement regarding fixation of pension of pre 1996 Maj Gens and the report dated 16 Jul 09 of the Cabinet Secretary on the issue of OROP.
It was decided that pension tables need not be prepared till the govt issues a letter on pension entitlements as per the Cabinet Secretary's report. It was however decided that the Cabinet Secretary's recommendations for not granting OROP be challenged and the fact that despite the SC ruling in favour of pre 1996 Maj Gens, the govt has extended their revised pension only till 1997 and not beyond to 1 Jan 06, be questioned. After discussion it was decided that the following points be covered in a letter to the PM, Defence Minister and the Finance Minister.
a) The definition of OROP stated by the Cabinet Secretary (as defined by a number of ESM orgs to him) in his report be reinforced ie pension should be based on the number of qualifying years of service and rank. Also special terms and conditions in which defence service pers serve should be highlighted and reiterated.
b) No senior rank should draw less pension than a rank junior to him.
c) Three assured career progressions must be assured to PBOR.
d) Fitment should be done at the max of a scale of a rank plus three stagnation increments for superannuating offrs.
e) MSP should be entitled to all ranks from Sepoy to Chief.. No artificial barrier of a salary limit of Addl Secy, Secy or Cab Secy should be laid down to deny senior officers MSP.
Maj Gen Radhakrishnan was requested to draft the letter, which will be circulated to all representative ESM orgs for their views before it is issued. It was also decided that the letter will be signed by Heads of IESL, IESM, Naval Foundation and Air Force Association. As the last IAF CAS is the head of AFA, he should be requested to sign at the head of other signatories.
I would like to put on record that Brig Gulia volunteered to provide staff and logistic support for the above. It must also be appreciated that all Orgs consented to provide full cooperation in making this ESM endeavour a success.
Lt Gen SK Bahri (Retd)
A High-powered Committee of Secretaries looking into the One Rank-One Pension demand put forward by ex-servicemen on Thursday, Jun 25, 2009 presented a concept of ‘modified parity’ to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Read more...
Panel suggests modified parity, new pensions for ex-servicemen
e- Governance, IT, PCDA and ESM Welfare Department
1. Initiate training programs, modules and tools for MOD and PCDA staff to ensure quality and consistency of pension benefits delivery system. The present pension adalats are merely an extension of bureaucratic control lacking feedback and communication with the ESM.
2. A 24 hour Customer service- toll free line for Widows, disabled and pensioners.
3. Central agency for PBORs Pension Rolls updated online from various paying authorities.
4. Information and technology investments- Delivery Network- should be made mandatory and those planned for the future should enable new technologies to be used to facilitate processing of PBORs claims and for providing the vast number of benefits to them and their families. The majority of development in new technology should include the enhancement of the compensation components, development of the Virtual VA imaging solution for compensation and pension, and operation of the program integrity and data management program. Thus ensuring delivery and peaking the Pension Mechanism down to the Treasuries and Bankers. This will facilitate and ensure monthly credit of entitled pensions, into individual accounts, are seamless and routine.
5. IT Support for Education Opportunities, Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment, Housing, and Insurance program be provided to eligible PBORs and their dependents. These programs should rely on supporting IT systems to ensure benefits and services are provided timely and consistently by the support staff at MOD/ Ex Servicemen Welfare Department.
Note: Funds required for toll free line and "ESM Pension Delivery Network" and related IT architecture can be met from Welfare Funds accrued from Flag Day collections and CSD(I) profits which annually runs to over Rs 1000 crores, hence no dearth of funds.
Indian Military: Degradation of Rank Structure
NEW EQUATIONS in rank structure
The implementation of sixth pay commission has drastically changed the warrant of precedence (WoP) for the Indian Armed Forces. The chairperson of UPSC has been upgraded to article 9A over services chiefs (at article 12). He/she used to be earlier at article 17 below services chiefs and also below officiating chiefs of the rank of Lt Gen who were on article 16. Chairperson of SCs and STs were added on article 17. Both these chairpersons are now higher than Army Commanders/Vice Chiefs who are on article 23. Members of SCs & STs placed at same level of Army Commanders/ Vice Chiefs at article 23. What more to say, even Field Marshall Manekshaw was placed at article 12 below two former civil servants (Brijesh Mishra and Vijay Kapoor).. Now, does anyone know what these gentlemen have done for INDIA?
As was well known, Army Commanders/ Vice Chiefs were equated with secretaries to Government of India on article 23. However, Note 10(c) of the WoP make an interesting distinction: In official functions held at Delhi, Army Commanders /Vice Chiefs of the Army Staff or equivalent in other services will always rank after the secrataries to the Government of India.
Following are the deductions:
DIG is now officially equivalent to a Brigadier (Earlier this rank was even junior to a Colonel)
Ministry of Home Affairs has declared that all IPS officers shall attain the rank of DIG in 14 year's service.
Senior Administrative Grade (SAG) is now officially equivalent to the rank of Major General.
Dept of Pers & Trg has declared that all IAS officers shall attain the rank of SAG in 14 year's service.
What would be achievable by 100% IPS officers in 14 years would now be achievable by 7% defence officers in 28 years.
What would be achievable by 100% IAS officers in 14 years would now be achievable by 2% defence in 33 years.
It is pertinent to mention that the senior most civilian rank in a state was equivalent to a Colonel during independence; whereas, over a period of time, the nation has only seen the downfall of our BABUS performance wise. Their machinary collapse even with a simple storm, whereas, their protocol has kept on rising. I don't need to mention the professionalism of our Armed Forces; the nation knows well.
In principle, our politicians needs to give an explanation for this remarkable erosion of a soldier's status over the past sixty years, the Generals, too, are equally responsible. They have virtually failed in restoring the pride of their own men whom they command. No doubt, even, they dont send their children to the military services who rather prefer beauty contests or becoming a Bollywood star. I don't blame them also, they have seen it all.
It is high time that we speak up or else GOD only save this country.
WOP tinkered again: Posted by Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singh
Received from Col Brig Thapa (Retd)
The implementation of sixth pay commission has drastically changed the warrant of precedence (WoP) for the Indian Armed Forces. The chairperson of UPSC has been upgraded to article 9A over services chiefs (at article 12). He/she used to be earlier at article 17 below services chiefs and also below officiating chiefs of the rank of Lt Gen who were on article 16. Chairperson of SCs and STs were added on article 17. Both these chairpersons are now higher than Army Commanders/Vice Chiefs who are on article 23. Members of SCs & STs placed at same level of Army Commanders/ Vice Chiefs at article 23. What more to say, even Field Marshall Manekshaw was placed at article 12 below two former civil servants (Brijesh Mishra and Vijay Kapoor).. Now, does anyone know what these gentlemen have done for INDIA?
As was well known, Army Commanders/ Vice Chiefs were equated with secretaries to Government of India on article 23. However, Note 10(c) of the WoP make an interesting distinction: In official functions held at Delhi, Army Commanders /Vice Chiefs of the Army Staff or equivalent in other services will always rank after the secrataries to the Government of India.
Following are the deductions:
It is pertinent to mention that the senior most civilian rank in a state was equivalent to a Colonel during independence; whereas, over a period of time, the nation has only seen the downfall of our BABUS performance wise. Their machinary collapse even with a simple storm, whereas, their protocol has kept on rising. I don't need to mention the professionalism of our Armed Forces; the nation knows well.
In principle, our politicians needs to give an explanation for this remarkable erosion of a soldier's status over the past sixty years, the Generals, too, are equally responsible. They have virtually failed in restoring the pride of their own men whom they command. No doubt, even, they dont send their children to the military services who rather prefer beauty contests or becoming a Bollywood star. I don't blame them also, they have seen it all.
It is high time that we speak up or else GOD only save this country.
WOP tinkered again: Posted by Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singh
Received from Col Brig Thapa (Retd)
Thursday, July 23, 2009
Do we care for our soldiers? CNN-IBN Program
Dear all,
A program has been recorded by CNN-IBN on 21 July the subject is 'DO WE CARE FOR INDIAN SOLDIER'. The program would be aired on CNN-IBN on FRIDAY 24 JULY AT 2030H, SATURDAY 25 JULY AT 2000H and SUNDAY 26 JULY AT 1200H. All those interested may tune and watch the show.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
A program has been recorded by CNN-IBN on 21 July the subject is 'DO WE CARE FOR INDIAN SOLDIER'. The program would be aired on CNN-IBN on FRIDAY 24 JULY AT 2030H, SATURDAY 25 JULY AT 2000H and SUNDAY 26 JULY AT 1200H. All those interested may tune and watch the show.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
Thursday, July 16, 2009
Afterthoughts- Pay Commissions & Omissions
It was about central pay scales, not about military and its personnel.
The debate on the Civil vs Military aspects of the VI CPC report, it seems, will continue to simmer, but, to me, the most interesting development on the debate this time around has been the Cabinet Secretary’s public admission that the Military will not be paid at the same levels as the Civil Services (parity was the term used). Some years ago, when it was suggested that India was probably the only democracy in the world that paid less to its military than the civil services, there were many denials, even in the military. The tragedy of the Indian Armed Forces has been that they seem to pick up these very nay-sayers to project their pay proposals to the government/ CPCs. Little wonder then, that military has a relative reduction in pay/ status with every CPC.
The bureaucracy of course had found a simple, ingenuous way of showing that the armed forces were paid more. Unilaterally declare equivalence between the military and the civil services personnel by issuing a memo elevating the junior civil service guy two steps above his logical military counterpart and ergo, the claim that level for level, the military is paid higher seems right. This was the argument followed so far, but when the debate turned nasty this time, the Cabinet Secretary has let the cat out of the bag.
While completely disagreeing with the logic of the Cabinet Secretary, I must appreciate this rare honesty (I think for the first time on the subject) on the part of the bureaucracy. Shorn of the niceties, he has merely reiterated the factual position that the armed forces in India will continue to be discriminated against, in matters of pay and allowances. I hope the armed forces take this candidness forward and highlight it in their advertisements asking youngsters to don uniform. As important, allow those who are not happy with their situation, to leave when they choose. Thereafter, it becomes an informed choice by those joining and they would have little reason to complain.
Read the full article:
Pay Commissions and Omissions: click me
For those who do not know, BeeCee the author of the article is a senior retired Naval Officer who was intimately involved in status and pay issues during the time he was serving.
Defence budget: The hike is not as big as it appears by Air Marshal RS Bedi
Tribune india article: click me
The debate on the Civil vs Military aspects of the VI CPC report, it seems, will continue to simmer, but, to me, the most interesting development on the debate this time around has been the Cabinet Secretary’s public admission that the Military will not be paid at the same levels as the Civil Services (parity was the term used). Some years ago, when it was suggested that India was probably the only democracy in the world that paid less to its military than the civil services, there were many denials, even in the military. The tragedy of the Indian Armed Forces has been that they seem to pick up these very nay-sayers to project their pay proposals to the government/ CPCs. Little wonder then, that military has a relative reduction in pay/ status with every CPC.
The bureaucracy of course had found a simple, ingenuous way of showing that the armed forces were paid more. Unilaterally declare equivalence between the military and the civil services personnel by issuing a memo elevating the junior civil service guy two steps above his logical military counterpart and ergo, the claim that level for level, the military is paid higher seems right. This was the argument followed so far, but when the debate turned nasty this time, the Cabinet Secretary has let the cat out of the bag.
While completely disagreeing with the logic of the Cabinet Secretary, I must appreciate this rare honesty (I think for the first time on the subject) on the part of the bureaucracy. Shorn of the niceties, he has merely reiterated the factual position that the armed forces in India will continue to be discriminated against, in matters of pay and allowances. I hope the armed forces take this candidness forward and highlight it in their advertisements asking youngsters to don uniform. As important, allow those who are not happy with their situation, to leave when they choose. Thereafter, it becomes an informed choice by those joining and they would have little reason to complain.
Read the full article:
Pay Commissions and Omissions: click me
For those who do not know, BeeCee the author of the article is a senior retired Naval Officer who was intimately involved in status and pay issues during the time he was serving.
Defence budget: The hike is not as big as it appears by Air Marshal RS Bedi
Tribune india article: click me
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
Gallantary Awards sans respect- Vir Chakra symbolises monetary benefits?
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 10:22 PM
Dear Brigadier Kamboj,
I'm forwarding what I received from a friend. You may like to include this in your news letter.
With warm regards,
Lalit Bhatnagar
Passage from the pages 110 & 111 of the book "Toward Resurgent India" written by Lt Gen (Retd) M M Lakhera, PVSM,AVSM,VSM, one time Lt Gov of Pondicherry and now the Governor of Mizoram.
"I had gone to UK in 1995 as Deputy Leader of the Indian Delegation to take part in the 50th Anniversary celebrations of the victory in Europe during the Second World War. I along with four other Army officers, had just stepped out after attending the inaugural session and were waiting on the roadside for the traffic to ease so as to walk across the road to the vehicle park. Among those with me was Honorary Captain Umrao Singh, a Victorian Cross winner (unfortunately, I have received the sad news of his expiry just two days back). All of a sudden a car moving on the road came to a halt in front of us and a well dressed gentleman stepped out. He approached Umrao Singh and said, "Sir, may I have the privilege of shaking hand with the Victoria Cross?" He shook hands with him. Evidently he had spotted Umrao Singh's medal from his car and had stopped his car to pay his respect to a winner of the highest gallantry medal of his country. Then he looked at me and said, "General, you are from Indian Army." When I replied in affirmative, he gave out his name, saying that he was Maichile Hailstine. I was absolutely astounded as the recognition dawned on me that he was the Deputy Prime Minister of UK.
I was totally overawed by such courtesy shown by a dignitary of the second highest status in the British Government and humbly thanked him for having invited our delegation for the VE Day function. Again his reply was typical of his sagacity, "General, it is we the British, who should be grateful to your country and your Armed Forces, who had helped us win both the first and the second World wars. How can we be ever so ungrateful to forget your country's great contribution."
Suddenly I became conscious that all the traffic behind his car had come to stand still. I hurried to thank him and politely requested him to move along to relieve the traffic hold-up. He stated, "Sir, how dare I drive off when Victoria Cross has to cross the road." Realizing his genuine feeling I and my colleagues quickly crossed the road. Reaching the other side I looked back and saw that Mr. Hailstine was still standing waiting for the Victoria Cross to be safely across.
Ladies & Gentlemen, that is the type of regards they have for their decorated soldiers. I have always aspired that similar respect could be shown at least to a Param Vir Chakra or Ashok Chakra winner by the leaders and prominent figures in our country."
Tailpiece: Will any Indian Politician or a Bureaucrat ever stop his car for Param Vir Chakra or Ashok Chakra winner and give him due regards in a public road just as the British Deputy Prime Minister respected Honorary Captain Umrao Singh, VC on a busy road in UK? No wonder that still the Indian Ex- Servicemen mainly PBORs are denied Pension Parity!
Dear Brigadier Kamboj,
I'm forwarding what I received from a friend. You may like to include this in your news letter.
With warm regards,
Lalit Bhatnagar
Passage from the pages 110 & 111 of the book "Toward Resurgent India" written by Lt Gen (Retd) M M Lakhera, PVSM,AVSM,VSM, one time Lt Gov of Pondicherry and now the Governor of Mizoram.
"I had gone to UK in 1995 as Deputy Leader of the Indian Delegation to take part in the 50th Anniversary celebrations of the victory in Europe during the Second World War. I along with four other Army officers, had just stepped out after attending the inaugural session and were waiting on the roadside for the traffic to ease so as to walk across the road to the vehicle park. Among those with me was Honorary Captain Umrao Singh, a Victorian Cross winner (unfortunately, I have received the sad news of his expiry just two days back). All of a sudden a car moving on the road came to a halt in front of us and a well dressed gentleman stepped out. He approached Umrao Singh and said, "Sir, may I have the privilege of shaking hand with the Victoria Cross?" He shook hands with him. Evidently he had spotted Umrao Singh's medal from his car and had stopped his car to pay his respect to a winner of the highest gallantry medal of his country. Then he looked at me and said, "General, you are from Indian Army." When I replied in affirmative, he gave out his name, saying that he was Maichile Hailstine. I was absolutely astounded as the recognition dawned on me that he was the Deputy Prime Minister of UK.
I was totally overawed by such courtesy shown by a dignitary of the second highest status in the British Government and humbly thanked him for having invited our delegation for the VE Day function. Again his reply was typical of his sagacity, "General, it is we the British, who should be grateful to your country and your Armed Forces, who had helped us win both the first and the second World wars. How can we be ever so ungrateful to forget your country's great contribution."
Suddenly I became conscious that all the traffic behind his car had come to stand still. I hurried to thank him and politely requested him to move along to relieve the traffic hold-up. He stated, "Sir, how dare I drive off when Victoria Cross has to cross the road." Realizing his genuine feeling I and my colleagues quickly crossed the road. Reaching the other side I looked back and saw that Mr. Hailstine was still standing waiting for the Victoria Cross to be safely across.
Ladies & Gentlemen, that is the type of regards they have for their decorated soldiers. I have always aspired that similar respect could be shown at least to a Param Vir Chakra or Ashok Chakra winner by the leaders and prominent figures in our country."
Tailpiece: Will any Indian Politician or a Bureaucrat ever stop his car for Param Vir Chakra or Ashok Chakra winner and give him due regards in a public road just as the British Deputy Prime Minister respected Honorary Captain Umrao Singh, VC on a busy road in UK? No wonder that still the Indian Ex- Servicemen mainly PBORs are denied Pension Parity!
Tuesday, May 26, 2009
SCPC: Degraded Rank of Lt Cols Normalised
No. 17(4)/2008(1 )/D (Pen/Policy), Government of India, Ministry of Defence, Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare, New Delhi, Dated: 21st May 2009
To,
The Chief of the Army Staff
The Chief of the Naval Staff
The Chief of the Air Staff
SUBJECT: IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GOVERNMENT DECISION ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SIXTH CENTRAL PAY· COMMISSION REVISION OF PENSION OF PRE-1.1.2006 ARMED FORCES PENSIONERS/ FAMILY PENSIONERS.
Sir,
The undersigned is directed to refer to this Ministry's letter No. 17(4)/2008(1)/ D(PenlPolicy) dated 11.11.2008 on the above subject as amended vide this Ministry's letter of even No. dated 20.1.2009 and to state that the pay structure for the rank of Lieutenant Colonel in the Army (other than MNS Officers) and equivalent ranks in Navy and Air Force issued in implementation of the recommendations of Sixth CPC, has been further revised under Special Army Instruction No. 2/S/2008, Special Navy Instruction No. 2/S/2008 and Special Air Force Instruction No. 2/S/2008 dated 21st April 2009 respectively, under which Lieutenant Colonel and equivalent officer in Navy and Air Force have been placed in Pay Band- 4 (i.e. Rs. 37400 - Rs. 67000) with Grade Pay of Rs. 8,000/- p.m. and MSP of Rs. 6,000/- p.m. Accordingly, the rates of minimum guaranteed pensionlfamily pension for the rank of Lieutenant Colonel (Substantive)/ Lieutenant Colonel (Time Scale) and equivalent ranks in Navy & Air Force, as notified in Annexure-II (Revised) to this Ministry's above quoted letter dated 20.1.2009, are substituted with the rates indicated in enclosed Annexure.
2. All other enteries remain unchanged.
3. This issues with the concurrence of the Finance Division of this Ministry vide their UO No.1817/09/D(Fin/Pen) dated 5.5.2009.
4. Hindi version will follow.
Sd xxx
(Harbans Singh)
Director (Pension/Policy)
Copy to: As per standard distribution list.
Annexure to MoD letter No 17(4)/2008(1)/D(Pen/Pol) dated 21.5.2009
Ammendment to Annexure – II (Revised) attached to MoD letter No 17(4)/2008(1)/D(Pen/ Pol) dated 11.11.2008 as ammended vide this ministy’s letter of even No. Dated 20.1.2009
Qualifying Service/ Lt Col (TS)/ Lt Col (S)
10/ 11682/ 13240
10.5/ 12072/ 13629
11/ 12461/ 14019
11.5/ 12850/ 14408
12/ 13240/ 14797
12.5/ 13629/ 15187
13/ 14019/ 15576
13.5/ 14408/ 15966
14/ 14797/ 16355
14.5/ 15187/ 16744
15/ 15576/ 17134
15.5/ 15966/ 17523
16/ 16355/ 17913
16.5/ 16744/ 18302
17/ 17134/ 18691
17.5/ 17523/ 19081
18/ 17913/ 19470
18.5/ 18302/ 19860
19/ 18691/ 20249
19.5/ 19081/ 20638
20/ 19470/ 21028
20.5/ 19860/ 21417
21/ 20249/ 21807
21.5/ 20838/ 22198
22/ 21028/ 22585
22.5/ 21417/ 22975
23/ 21807/ 23364
23.5/ 22196/ 23754
24/ 22585/ 24143
24.5/ 22975/ 24532
25/ 23364/ 24922
25.5/ 23754/ 25311
26/ 24143/ 25700
26.5/ 24532/ 25700
27/ 24922/ 25700
27.5/ 25311/ 25700
28/ 25700/ 25700
28.5/ 25700/ 25700
29/ 25700/ 25700
29.5/ 25700/ 25700
30 & above/ 25700/ 25700
TABLE – 2 : FAMILY PENSION
Lt Col(TS) 15430
Lt Col(S) 15420
NOTES:
1. While the qualifying service indicated in the Table- 1 above is the actual qualifying service. the amount of pension indicated is inclusive of the rank weightage as admissible in terms of Para 5.1 (b) (II) of this Minstry's letter No. 1 (6)/98/D(Pen/Sers) cIt 3.2.1998.
2. The difference in the amount of pension for the same qualifying service of Lt Col (TS) and LlCol (S) is due to dlfferent rank weightage available to Lt Col (TS) and Lt Col (S) in terms of Para 5.1 of MOD letter No 1(6)/98/D(Pension/Services) dated 3.2.1998.
To,
The Chief of the Army Staff
The Chief of the Naval Staff
The Chief of the Air Staff
SUBJECT: IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GOVERNMENT DECISION ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SIXTH CENTRAL PAY· COMMISSION REVISION OF PENSION OF PRE-1.1.2006 ARMED FORCES PENSIONERS/ FAMILY PENSIONERS.
Sir,
The undersigned is directed to refer to this Ministry's letter No. 17(4)/2008(1)/ D(PenlPolicy) dated 11.11.2008 on the above subject as amended vide this Ministry's letter of even No. dated 20.1.2009 and to state that the pay structure for the rank of Lieutenant Colonel in the Army (other than MNS Officers) and equivalent ranks in Navy and Air Force issued in implementation of the recommendations of Sixth CPC, has been further revised under Special Army Instruction No. 2/S/2008, Special Navy Instruction No. 2/S/2008 and Special Air Force Instruction No. 2/S/2008 dated 21st April 2009 respectively, under which Lieutenant Colonel and equivalent officer in Navy and Air Force have been placed in Pay Band- 4 (i.e. Rs. 37400 - Rs. 67000) with Grade Pay of Rs. 8,000/- p.m. and MSP of Rs. 6,000/- p.m. Accordingly, the rates of minimum guaranteed pensionlfamily pension for the rank of Lieutenant Colonel (Substantive)/ Lieutenant Colonel (Time Scale) and equivalent ranks in Navy & Air Force, as notified in Annexure-II (Revised) to this Ministry's above quoted letter dated 20.1.2009, are substituted with the rates indicated in enclosed Annexure.
2. All other enteries remain unchanged.
3. This issues with the concurrence of the Finance Division of this Ministry vide their UO No.1817/09/D(Fin/Pen) dated 5.5.2009.
4. Hindi version will follow.
Sd xxx
(Harbans Singh)
Director (Pension/Policy)
Copy to: As per standard distribution list.
Annexure to MoD letter No 17(4)/2008(1)/D(Pen/Pol) dated 21.5.2009
Ammendment to Annexure – II (Revised) attached to MoD letter No 17(4)/2008(1)/D(Pen/ Pol) dated 11.11.2008 as ammended vide this ministy’s letter of even No. Dated 20.1.2009
Qualifying Service/ Lt Col (TS)/ Lt Col (S)
10/ 11682/ 13240
10.5/ 12072/ 13629
11/ 12461/ 14019
11.5/ 12850/ 14408
12/ 13240/ 14797
12.5/ 13629/ 15187
13/ 14019/ 15576
13.5/ 14408/ 15966
14/ 14797/ 16355
14.5/ 15187/ 16744
15/ 15576/ 17134
15.5/ 15966/ 17523
16/ 16355/ 17913
16.5/ 16744/ 18302
17/ 17134/ 18691
17.5/ 17523/ 19081
18/ 17913/ 19470
18.5/ 18302/ 19860
19/ 18691/ 20249
19.5/ 19081/ 20638
20/ 19470/ 21028
20.5/ 19860/ 21417
21/ 20249/ 21807
21.5/ 20838/ 22198
22/ 21028/ 22585
22.5/ 21417/ 22975
23/ 21807/ 23364
23.5/ 22196/ 23754
24/ 22585/ 24143
24.5/ 22975/ 24532
25/ 23364/ 24922
25.5/ 23754/ 25311
26/ 24143/ 25700
26.5/ 24532/ 25700
27/ 24922/ 25700
27.5/ 25311/ 25700
28/ 25700/ 25700
28.5/ 25700/ 25700
29/ 25700/ 25700
29.5/ 25700/ 25700
30 & above/ 25700/ 25700
TABLE – 2 : FAMILY PENSION
Lt Col(TS) 15430
Lt Col(S) 15420
NOTES:
1. While the qualifying service indicated in the Table- 1 above is the actual qualifying service. the amount of pension indicated is inclusive of the rank weightage as admissible in terms of Para 5.1 (b) (II) of this Minstry's letter No. 1 (6)/98/D(Pen/Sers) cIt 3.2.1998.
2. The difference in the amount of pension for the same qualifying service of Lt Col (TS) and LlCol (S) is due to dlfferent rank weightage available to Lt Col (TS) and Lt Col (S) in terms of Para 5.1 of MOD letter No 1(6)/98/D(Pension/Services) dated 3.2.1998.
Saturday, May 16, 2009
IESM: Chairman's Desk
Date: Friday, 15 May, 2009, 11:49 PM
Dear Colleagues,
In a few hours from now the election results will start coming in. The nail- biting will end. The poll predictions and speculations will all be put to test. In the coming days, when the political climate clears, we will also know what direction to follow for pursuit of OROP.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Mandate 2009
2009 elections started off with a thump– impatience with the status quo and need for change- political parties and politicians to start behaving more responsibly, differently, patriotically and honestly! It is clear that status quo has continued– lower turnout, criminals participation, tickets to renowned corrupt ministers and gender bias– no change at all! And so friends, its likely that we will be presented with more of the same on 16th May– deal making in various corridors of Delhi and issues like change, democratic mandate, election manifesto, all likely to be forgotten and ignored! If that happens hope we don’t just sit around silently and allow it to happen! Citizens need to be proactive to safeguard the security of the nation. Who else is more suited for this leading role than the Ex- Servicemen?
Dear Colleagues,
In a few hours from now the election results will start coming in. The nail- biting will end. The poll predictions and speculations will all be put to test. In the coming days, when the political climate clears, we will also know what direction to follow for pursuit of OROP.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
Mandate 2009
2009 elections started off with a thump– impatience with the status quo and need for change- political parties and politicians to start behaving more responsibly, differently, patriotically and honestly! It is clear that status quo has continued– lower turnout, criminals participation, tickets to renowned corrupt ministers and gender bias– no change at all! And so friends, its likely that we will be presented with more of the same on 16th May– deal making in various corridors of Delhi and issues like change, democratic mandate, election manifesto, all likely to be forgotten and ignored! If that happens hope we don’t just sit around silently and allow it to happen! Citizens need to be proactive to safeguard the security of the nation. Who else is more suited for this leading role than the Ex- Servicemen?
Saturday, May 9, 2009
I feel cheated: Military Rank and Status Irrational and Arbitrary
Friday, 19 December , 2008, 12:49 My father Daroga Prasad Rai, who was Chief Minister of Bihar in 1970, motivated and encouraged me to join Sainik School Tilaiya with a view to make me join Armed Forces as an officer.
He always spoke of the Indian Armed Forces with the highest regard. At that time I was only about nine years old. At that impressionable age I became highly motivated.
I do not deny that I was thrilled by the prospect of joining the most noble profession, where one gets a chance to make the supreme sacrifice for his country.
Accordingly I competed and joined Sainik School Tilaiya. But I did not want to leave any stone unturned in my ambition to become an Army Officer. When I came to know about Rashtriya Indian Military College, Dehradun (RIMC), which was considered to be the best, I competed and joined the RIMC in January 1973.
Even though my initial enthusiasm had not waned, by the time I reached 11th standard, with whatever understanding I had, I started enquiring about a career in the Armed Forces.
My seniors who were at the Indian Military Academy by then, fed me some comparisons. First, they showed me that all the Class-I Services officers (including IAS and IPS) started their career at a basic salary of Rs 700/- per month, whereas in the case of Armed Forces officers it was Rs 750/- per month. (I later came to know that this extra Rs 50/- was special disturbance allowance, which was merged with basic pay by the Third Pay Commission).
Second, they also showed me the orders where a Major was equated with an IAS Officer with not less than 12 years of service. The obvious conclusion, which will be drawn by any 16 or 17-year-old boy, would be that the Army as a career was almost equal to the IAS, and certainly better than the IPS or other Class-I central services.
Having convinced myself, I put in my best in the NDA exam, and ranked eighth in the final merit list. After successfully completing my training at NDA Khadakwasla and IMA, Dehradun, I was commissioned as Second Lieutenant in June 1981 in the 7th Battalion the Sikh Regiment, on my own choice i.e., after exactly 11 years of hard training and spartan living. But due to an injury, attributable to Military Service, I was placed in a permanent low medical category. Consequently, I was transferred to the Army Ordnance Corps in 1988 i.e., after seven years of regimental service in Infantry. On transfer I was posted to the Ordnance Depot, Shakurbasti, Delhi. It was here I learnt that whatever I had been thinking about the career in the Indian Army was wrong.
In the Ordnance Depot, I discovered that the JCOs who are Gazetted Officers (I have seen the Gazette Notification of JCOs) are equated with non-gazetted civilian employees and that too of Class-III i.e., Group-C. The point has only been made to emphasise the arbitrariness and irrationality of orders regarding the relativity of ranks. And as the de facto equation stands today, there cannot be any service with worse career prospects than the Army except some Group-B services.
But is this the result of a “steep pyramidal hierarchy” as is often claimed? No. It is the result of a conscious effort by the bureaucracy to degrade the services ever since independence. To undo this, i.e., if the Government is sincere, the solution is to revert to the pre-A V Singh Committee implementation stage and reintroduce the rank of 2nd Lieutenant, and to offer one-rank one-pay scale in the standard pay scales as was applicable to all the Organised Central Group-A Civil Services ( erstwhile allied services).
Till recently, the Warrant of Precedence stated that a Major is equal to an IAS Officer with not less than 12 years of service and a Superintendent of Police with not less than 15 years of service.
The status of Army officers was further degraded as per the underlying thrust of the Sixth Pay Commission, at the behest of bureaucracy. Why are these facts not disseminated to the young aspirants to the Armed Forces? If bureaucrats and policemen are higher in rank and status, then why are Army officers debarred from taking the IAS and IPS exams? I do not think that anyone today, if he is aware of of these facts, would join the Army, except to earn hsi bread. As for myself, had I known this, forget the Sainik School or RIMC, I would have never joined the Army. The relativity in rank and status is irrational and arbitrary, against the letter and spirit of the Constitution and violates my fundamental rights.
By Lt Col A K Rai (Retd)
An alumnus of Sainik School Tilaiya, Rashtriya Indian Military College, Deharadun, NDA, Khadakwasla, the author was commissioned into the Sikh Regiment in Jun 1981. he was transferred to the AOC in 1988. He took premature retirement after serving the mandatory period, he now works as the Chief Administrative Officer of a 150-bed hospital in Patna.
Why Do I Feel Cheated?
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Tuesday, May 5, 2009
The Fauji Devalued
Economic & Political Weekly
Current Issue : VOL 44 No. 17 April 25 - May 01, 2009
The Fauji Devalued
Live issues within the military, such as physically and psychologically trying service conditions, especially during internal security duties, insufficient living accommodation, all jawans having to retire at the age of 38, 60% officers by the age of 54, and promotions (to which pay is linked) being very limited especially in the officer cadre, have been borne without much murmur. But now the dissatisfaction in the military is at high pitch, although this may not be seen by those outside “the system” – not even those who have access to intelligence reports, because most intelligence agencies keep uncomfortable facts away from the boss. The hard fact is that, justifiable or not, most faujis and veterans harbour a grudge against the bureaucracy, which they see as the hand behind the consistent denial of their just and fair demands. Admittedly, every person feels that his demand is just and fair. But we must note the great dissimilarity between what the fauji does, how he lives and works with risk to life and limb on the one hand, and on the other, bureaucrats who live relatively comfortable lives, receive assured promotions, draw higher salaries and earn more during their much longer service life.
It is appropriate to quote examples. Only 7% of military officers get promoted to Brigadier rank after 28 years of service, much of it in hard areas, while 100% of the Indian Police Service officers are elevated to the “equivalent” post of Director/ Inspector General after 14 years of service. Similarly, only 2% of military officers get promoted to major general after 32 years of service, while 100% of IAS officers are promoted to the “equivalent” senior administrative grade after 14 years of service. (This coincidentally shows how the Indian Administrative Service is one-up on the IPS!). But this is not about officers alone, because the status inequity goes down the hierarchy to the sepoy who, though living a much riskier life and retiring much earlier, becomes inferior to his civilian counterpart.
The load on the exchequer for providing military personnel status-service-salary parity with the IAS or police at all levels is not unaffordable considering, for example, the huge tax holidays and concessions being freely given to commercial and industrial corporations. While he freely accepts being under control of the union cabinet through the defence minister, the fauji resents the real-time control that is exercised by the bureaucracy to his personal detriment and the izzat of his service. He feels devalued, neglected and insulted. This state of affairs is undoubtedly harmful for the country’s internal and external security.
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one-rank-one-pension demand
The Burden of Military pensions- by Gautam Navlakha
Current Issue : VOL 44 No. 17 April 25 - May 01, 2009
The Fauji Devalued
Live issues within the military, such as physically and psychologically trying service conditions, especially during internal security duties, insufficient living accommodation, all jawans having to retire at the age of 38, 60% officers by the age of 54, and promotions (to which pay is linked) being very limited especially in the officer cadre, have been borne without much murmur. But now the dissatisfaction in the military is at high pitch, although this may not be seen by those outside “the system” – not even those who have access to intelligence reports, because most intelligence agencies keep uncomfortable facts away from the boss. The hard fact is that, justifiable or not, most faujis and veterans harbour a grudge against the bureaucracy, which they see as the hand behind the consistent denial of their just and fair demands. Admittedly, every person feels that his demand is just and fair. But we must note the great dissimilarity between what the fauji does, how he lives and works with risk to life and limb on the one hand, and on the other, bureaucrats who live relatively comfortable lives, receive assured promotions, draw higher salaries and earn more during their much longer service life.
It is appropriate to quote examples. Only 7% of military officers get promoted to Brigadier rank after 28 years of service, much of it in hard areas, while 100% of the Indian Police Service officers are elevated to the “equivalent” post of Director/ Inspector General after 14 years of service. Similarly, only 2% of military officers get promoted to major general after 32 years of service, while 100% of IAS officers are promoted to the “equivalent” senior administrative grade after 14 years of service. (This coincidentally shows how the Indian Administrative Service is one-up on the IPS!). But this is not about officers alone, because the status inequity goes down the hierarchy to the sepoy who, though living a much riskier life and retiring much earlier, becomes inferior to his civilian counterpart.
The load on the exchequer for providing military personnel status-service-salary parity with the IAS or police at all levels is not unaffordable considering, for example, the huge tax holidays and concessions being freely given to commercial and industrial corporations. While he freely accepts being under control of the union cabinet through the defence minister, the fauji resents the real-time control that is exercised by the bureaucracy to his personal detriment and the izzat of his service. He feels devalued, neglected and insulted. This state of affairs is undoubtedly harmful for the country’s internal and external security.
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one-rank-one-pension demand
The Burden of Military pensions- by Gautam Navlakha
Sunday, April 26, 2009
India’s million-strong military prepares to vote
Ritu Sharma
NEW DELHI - India’s apolitical military is proactively preparing to vote in parliamentary elections only a week away. Thanks to steps the military establishment has taken, more than one million forms have been submitted to the Election Commission so that soldiers can vote whereever they may be posted.
This follows the military brass’ decision to ensure that soldiers get to vote — a democratic privilege many are forced to skip because of flaws in the electoral exercise involving soldiers. The Indian Army has 1.1 million men and women, the air force has 140,000 and the navy has about 55,000 personnel.
‘About 10 lakh (1 million) forms have been forwarded by the army personnel for registration. The Election Commission has acknowledged nearly 45 percent,’ an army official told IANS, requesting anonymity as he was not authorised to speak to the media. In January, the armed forces, for the first time, asked all its personnel to get themselves registered with the poll panel in their area of posting to exercise their right to vote.
Most Indian soldiers, including airmen and sailors, have never or rarely voted while in service for want of an effective polling mechanism. Military personnel can vote in their area of posting only during general elections and provided they are registered with the Election Commission in that area. This, however, rarely happens.
Most soldiers also find the postal ballot system faulty, and appear to be unaware of the proxy voting system that allows a family member to vote on their behalf. Indian Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal Fali H. Major told IANS recently: ‘Although there are proxy voting and postal ballots, things have not materialised as desired.’
The IAF chief has himself not been able to vote regularly because, like most of his colleagues, he has been away from where he has been registered as a voter during election time. ‘The last I voted was 10 years ago when I was home on vacation. I have voted only four times (in 41 years of service),’ he said.
The Indian Air Force has put all the procedures on its intranet. The notification of the Election Commission has been sent to various command headquarters, which in turn has informed the field units. ‘People are being encouraged to vote,’ a senior IAF official said. The Election Commission reiterated Monday that defence personnel can use proxy voting. But there are complaints against postal ballots. The system suffers from long delays, so much so that at times the postal ballots reach the units after a new government has already taken office.
Why the sudden desire to vote?
While no one is ready to speak on record, some retired and serving officers said this was linked to the discontent among the armed forces due to what they see as a raw deal in revision of pay scales. ‘The armed forces are being shortchanged in the Pay Commission and their lack of say in decision making is hurting them,’ said another high-ranking army official.
India’s million-strong military prepares to vote
NEW DELHI - India’s apolitical military is proactively preparing to vote in parliamentary elections only a week away. Thanks to steps the military establishment has taken, more than one million forms have been submitted to the Election Commission so that soldiers can vote whereever they may be posted.
This follows the military brass’ decision to ensure that soldiers get to vote — a democratic privilege many are forced to skip because of flaws in the electoral exercise involving soldiers. The Indian Army has 1.1 million men and women, the air force has 140,000 and the navy has about 55,000 personnel.
‘About 10 lakh (1 million) forms have been forwarded by the army personnel for registration. The Election Commission has acknowledged nearly 45 percent,’ an army official told IANS, requesting anonymity as he was not authorised to speak to the media. In January, the armed forces, for the first time, asked all its personnel to get themselves registered with the poll panel in their area of posting to exercise their right to vote.
Most Indian soldiers, including airmen and sailors, have never or rarely voted while in service for want of an effective polling mechanism. Military personnel can vote in their area of posting only during general elections and provided they are registered with the Election Commission in that area. This, however, rarely happens.
Most soldiers also find the postal ballot system faulty, and appear to be unaware of the proxy voting system that allows a family member to vote on their behalf. Indian Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal Fali H. Major told IANS recently: ‘Although there are proxy voting and postal ballots, things have not materialised as desired.’
The IAF chief has himself not been able to vote regularly because, like most of his colleagues, he has been away from where he has been registered as a voter during election time. ‘The last I voted was 10 years ago when I was home on vacation. I have voted only four times (in 41 years of service),’ he said.
The Indian Air Force has put all the procedures on its intranet. The notification of the Election Commission has been sent to various command headquarters, which in turn has informed the field units. ‘People are being encouraged to vote,’ a senior IAF official said. The Election Commission reiterated Monday that defence personnel can use proxy voting. But there are complaints against postal ballots. The system suffers from long delays, so much so that at times the postal ballots reach the units after a new government has already taken office.
Why the sudden desire to vote?
While no one is ready to speak on record, some retired and serving officers said this was linked to the discontent among the armed forces due to what they see as a raw deal in revision of pay scales. ‘The armed forces are being shortchanged in the Pay Commission and their lack of say in decision making is hurting them,’ said another high-ranking army official.
India’s million-strong military prepares to vote
Saturday, April 25, 2009
After Lt Cols, govt approves higher pay for Lt Gens
Three days after implementing higher pay for Lt Cols, the government on Friday night approved of higher wages for lieutenant generals under the Sixth Pay Commission putting them at par with director generals of police, a key demand of the armed forces.
The defence ministry conveyed the government's decision to the Armed Forces headquarters in a letter which comes nearly seven months after the union cabinet approved the Sixth Pay Commission implementation in August last year, sources in the services' headquarters told PTI here.
Nearly 50 three-star officers, who are Lt Gens in the Army, Air Marshals in the IAF and Vice Admirals in the Navy, would benefit from the government move to place them in the Higher Administrative Grade (HAG) Plus scales.
About 33 per cent of the total number of Lt Gen-rank officers would be receiving the new pay scales at par with the DGPs of state police and central paramilitary forces.
There are approximately about 150 Lt Gen-rank officers in the three services. Among them, the Army, Navy and Air Force Commanders, who are chiefs of the Service's Commands, and vice chiefs of the respective forces are already in a special category of pay scales equivalent to secretaries in the civilian services. The HAG Plus scales would be for Lt Gens who are not Commanders or Vice Chiefs.
"The armed forces are extremely happy with the government's decision to accord the HAG Plus pay scales to Lt Gens. With this, the government has restored the three-star rank officers' their status. This will surely help in resolving the seniority issue in areas where officers from the armed forces and the civilian services work jointly," a senior armed forces officer said.
By accepting this demand, the government has resolved three of the four "core issues" raised by the armed forces with Defence Minister A.K. Antony and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh soon after the government approved the Sixth Pay Commission recommendations last year.
Other issues already solved to the satisfaction of the Services included according Pay Band-4 scales to 15,000-odd Lieutenant Colonel-rank officers, who form the backbone of the armed forces' fighting units and restoring 70 per cent weightage in pensionary benefits for the over a million-strong jawans.
While the government has already notified the amended pay order in the case of Lt Cols, the notifications for the Lt Gens and the jawans are yet to come, sources said.
After Lt Cols, govt approves higher pay for Lt Gens
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The defence ministry conveyed the government's decision to the Armed Forces headquarters in a letter which comes nearly seven months after the union cabinet approved the Sixth Pay Commission implementation in August last year, sources in the services' headquarters told PTI here.
Nearly 50 three-star officers, who are Lt Gens in the Army, Air Marshals in the IAF and Vice Admirals in the Navy, would benefit from the government move to place them in the Higher Administrative Grade (HAG) Plus scales.
About 33 per cent of the total number of Lt Gen-rank officers would be receiving the new pay scales at par with the DGPs of state police and central paramilitary forces.
There are approximately about 150 Lt Gen-rank officers in the three services. Among them, the Army, Navy and Air Force Commanders, who are chiefs of the Service's Commands, and vice chiefs of the respective forces are already in a special category of pay scales equivalent to secretaries in the civilian services. The HAG Plus scales would be for Lt Gens who are not Commanders or Vice Chiefs.
"The armed forces are extremely happy with the government's decision to accord the HAG Plus pay scales to Lt Gens. With this, the government has restored the three-star rank officers' their status. This will surely help in resolving the seniority issue in areas where officers from the armed forces and the civilian services work jointly," a senior armed forces officer said.
By accepting this demand, the government has resolved three of the four "core issues" raised by the armed forces with Defence Minister A.K. Antony and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh soon after the government approved the Sixth Pay Commission recommendations last year.
Other issues already solved to the satisfaction of the Services included according Pay Band-4 scales to 15,000-odd Lieutenant Colonel-rank officers, who form the backbone of the armed forces' fighting units and restoring 70 per cent weightage in pensionary benefits for the over a million-strong jawans.
While the government has already notified the amended pay order in the case of Lt Cols, the notifications for the Lt Gens and the jawans are yet to come, sources said.
After Lt Cols, govt approves higher pay for Lt Gens
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