Saturday, April 11, 2009

IESM: Fast for Justice- hundred and fifteenth day

Date: Friday, 10 April, 2009, 10:00 PM
Dear Colleagues,
Jantar Mantar remains activated.
Maha Rally 12 April 09
All available Core Gp members met at Jantar Mantar this evening for a kind of general bolt tightening and for finalising who/when/what/where et al. Preparations are in place and a record turnout is expected. We hope to see you all at 1100 hours 12 April, 2009.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM

Pension Parity of Major Generals: Supreme Court Ruling
Hi Friends,
Went to the SC yesterday to hear the contempt case submitted by Nidesh Gupta for non compliance of the SC orders regarding our pensions. Altamas Kabir was the senior judge of the bench, he was fully aware of the case & was furious with the COAS & Def Secy for not implementing the SC orders. He let the Defence lawyers have it as they gave no reasons for non execution. He first issued notice to the COAS & Def Secy to come personally to the court & explain as to why the the SC orders had not been executed & why a contempt case should not be launched against them. On pleading by the Def lawyers he excused their personal appearance. On our pressurizing he fixed the next hearing on 4th May. This news was picked up by all TV channels & high lighted in their 1200hrs onwards. Hope the Govt now takes some action. Please inform all concerned.
Maj Gen SC Suri (Retd)

प्रिय साथियों,
Jantar Mantar सक्रिय रहता है.
महा रैली 12 अप्रैल 09.
सभी उपलब्ध कोर ग्रुप के सदस्यों Jantar Mantar पर इस शाम सामान्य बोल्ट मजबूत की एक किस्म के लिए मिले थे और जिन्होंने / जब / क्या / जहां एट अल अंतिम रूप देने के लिए. तैयारी में हैं और एक रिकॉर्ड मतदान की संभावना है. हम 12 अप्रैल, 2009 1100 घंटे में आप को देखने के लिए उम्मीद है.
लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
अध्यक्ष IESM

पेंशन समानता मेजर जनरल के: सुप्रीम कोर्ट सत्तारूढ़
हाय दोस्तों,
अनुसूचित जाति के लिए कल की अवमानना का मामला Nidesh गुप्ता द्वारा अनुसूचित जाति आदेश हमारे पेंशन के संबंध में की गैर अनुपालन के लिए प्रस्तुत सुनने के लिए गया था. Altamas कबीर की बेंच के वरिष्ठ न्यायाधीश था पूरी तरह से इस मामले की और थल सेनाध्यक्ष और रक्षा सचिव के नहीं एससी आदेशों को लागू करने के लिए के साथ अति क्रुद्ध थी अवगत, वह था. वह के रूप में वे गैर निष्पादन के लिए कोई कारण दिया रक्षा वकीलों इसे करते हैं. वह पहली बार थल सेनाध्यक्ष और रक्षा सचिव को व्यक्तिगत रूप से अदालत में आने के लिए और समझाने के रूप में क्यों कि अनुसूचित जाति आदेश एवं निष्पादित नहीं किया गया था करने के लिए क्यों एक अवमानना का मामला उनके खिलाफ शुरू नहीं की जानी चाहिए नोटिस जारी किए हैं. वह अपने निजी उपस्थिति माफ़ रक्षा वकीलों द्वारा सिफ़ारिश पर. पर हमारे वह 4 मई को अगली सुनवाई तय ज़ोर. यह खबर सभी टीवी चैनलों और के द्वारा उठाया गया था उनके 1200hrs बाद में जला उच्च. आशा है कि सरकार अब कुछ कार्रवाई लेता है. कृपया सभी संबंधितों को सूचित.
मेजर जनरल एससी सूरी (सेवानिवृत्त)

IESM: Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar on 12 April 2009

List of members who have returned Medals to the President
Dear All,
The list of Veterans who have surrendered their Medals to the President is compiled by Gp Capt Gandhi is now on the IESM web site and can be viewed at IESM: click me on the link IESM Members ..Updated list. This list is not complete and the rest is still under compilation. Any member who does not find his name in the list may kindly intimate the same for correct update.
Cdr SS Ahuja (Retd)
Member Core Group IESM

Dated: 10 Apr 2009
Maha Rally By Ex Servicemen at Jantar Mantar New Delhi on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM
An Appeal
Dear Friends,
1. Our Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar New Delhi on12 Apr 09 is being organized to not only press for over demands but also to show case our “Power of the Vote” in the coming Lok Sabha Elections. We will also deposit our Medals with the President for the fourth time to express our deep anguish and dismay at our continuing neglect by the present Government.
2. Since numbers matter, we appeal to all ESM Organisation and ESM across the country to MUST take part in this Maha Rally. “JAGO FAUJI JAGO, BEINSAFI SE LARHNE KE LIYE APNA YOGDAN DO” All ESM, their dependents and supporters residing in NCR and neighbouring states of Haryana, Punjab, UP, Himachal, Rajasthan, Uttrankhand must join the Rally in large numbers. It is encouraging to know that some ESM from Southern states are also attending the Rally
3. You are requested to pass on this information to as many ESM as possible and motivate them to attend the Rally. IESM will also part reimburse the transport expenditure to the tune of Rs 1000/- (Rupees one thousand only) per bus load with a proviso that those traveling in these buses should become IESM members. We have limited funds through the membership subscription and donations and would request ESM across the country to become members of the IESM to increase the financial capability of the organization. Our struggle has to go on to ensure due justice to the defence Personnel. All Must reach Jantar Mantar at 11 AM on 12 Apr 09. “Ham Ne To JAB Vadiye Gurbat Mein Kadam Rakha Tha, To Dur tak Madre Vatan Ayee Thee Samjhane Ko” (Shaheed S. Bhagat Singh)
With regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement

Remember Me

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Date: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009, 12:11 PM
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM,
Chairman IESM

Friday, April 10, 2009

Ex Servicemen assaulted by DMK councillors in Chennai

CHENNAI: Police are searching for a group of men, including a couple of councillors belonging to the DMK, for assaulting four senior citizens in Madambakkam on Thursday. Three former defence officers and wife of one of the officers were injured.

The injured complained that the incident was a result of animosity nurtured by a section of politicians for protests staged by residents against the location of the proposed common sewage treatment plant in Madambakkam for an underground drainage project for Madambakkam, Sembakkam and Chitlapakkam Town Panchayats.

Selaiyur police said they had registered a FIR following a complaint from Admiral (retired) Srinivasan (63), who said a section of residents, including Brigadier (retired) Mohan Thomas (62), Colonel (retired) Sundar (58) and his wife Usha Sundar (52), went to the proposed site on an invitation from TNPCB officials.

R. Kumar, Joint Chief Environmental Engineer, Admiral Srinivasan said, had come to the site on Wednesday following complaints from residents that once completed, the facility would irreversibly damage the fragile environment including water bodies around it. The residents’ charge was that the facility had not got the necessary clearance from TNPCB. Even as the residents were trying to point out their concerns to the TNPCB engineer, councillors and his supporters showered abuses on them.

When the residents tried to take the engineer to water bodies nearby, the councillors and their supporters threatened the residents and suddenly, a group of men picked up coconut fronds and wooden clubs and attacked them. The FIR has been registered against L.S.S.Mohan, councillor of Madambakkam town panchayat, (who is husband of Malliga, chairperson of the local body), councillor M.Samson and Executive Officer D.Gunasekaran, police added.
Fir against DMK councillors in assault case

Comment: All ESM and ESM Organisations should unitedly fight the corrupt Politicians and Councillors who really are goondas terrorising the innocent citizens. All Politicians are having potful of black money and indulge in benami transactions, fraud, cheating, smuggling, illegal buying and selling of real estate for huge profits in connivance of the Politicians and Police. There is immediate need for Police reforms if common citizens need security from Political hoodlums. War on terror must be fought from all angles.

SCPC: Contempt Notice to Army Chief and Defence Secretary

The Supreme Court has issued a contempt notice to the Army chief and Defence Secretary for not implementing the court's order on the 5th pay commission. This comes after some retired army officers approached the Court over discrepancies in pensions.

The apex court in October 2008 had said that there should not be any discrimination between pre-1996, post-1996 defence pensioners. However, the Defence Ministry did not implement the order. And so we ask, are the armed forces being given a raw deal over the Pay Commission? On Verdict, join Vikram Chandra, for a discussion on 'ONE RANK, ONE PAY' on NDTV 24x7.

What's your take?

Q. Are the armed forces being given a raw deal over the Pay Commission?
  • Yes
  • No
  • Can't say

    छठे केन्द्रीय वेतन आयोग (SCPC): सेना प्रमुख और रक्षा सचिव को अवमानना नोटिस
    उच्चतम न्यायालय ने 5. वेतन आयोग पर अदालत के आदेश को लागू नहीं करने के लिए सेना प्रमुख और रक्षा सचिव को अवमानना नोटिस जारी किए हैं. के बाद कुछ सेवानिवृत्त सेना अधिकारियों पेंशन में विसंगतियों को लेकर अदालत का दरवाजा खटखटाया यह आता है.

    अक्टूबर 2008 में सुप्रीम कोर्ट कि पूर्व के बीच कोई भेदभाव-1996, 1996 के बाद रक्षा पेंशनरों नहीं किया जाना चाहिए ने कहा था. हालांकि, रक्षा मंत्रालय के आदेश को लागू नहीं किया. और इसलिए हम, सशस्त्र बलों के वेतन आयोग पर एक कच्चा सौदा दिया जा रहा है पूछना? फैसले पर, 'पर एक चर्चा एक रैंक, एनडीटीवी 24x7 पर एक भुगतान' के लिए विक्रम चंद्रा, में शामिल हो.

    क्या ले आपका है?

    * क्या सशस्त्र बलों के वेतन आयोग पर एक कच्चा सौदा दिया जा रहा है?
  • हाँ
  • नहीं
  • कह नहीं सकते
    वोट दें
  • IESM: Fast for Justice Rally- hundred and fourteenth day

    Date: Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 9:58 PM
    Dear Colleagues,
    Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
    New Membership
    Thanks to Maj SR Singh, Varanasi continues with membership drive. We extend a heartful welcome to the new members:
    1. Lt Col BN Rai
    2. Lt Col KC Rai
    3. Maj Paramanand Singh
    4. Sub/Maj Ramdhir Singh
    5. Sub/Maj MP Singh
    6. Hony Capt TP Rai
    7. H/Lt Jamwant Singh
    8. Nk Shashi Kant Singh
    9. Hav Sambhu Pd Pandey
    Depositing of Medals
    Following veterans from Varanasi have also deposited their medals:
    1. Maj Parmanad Singh
    2. Lt Col KC Rai
    3. Sub Umakant Yadav
    4. Sub Maj MP Singh'
    5. H/Lt Jamwant Singh
    6. Sub Maj Randhir Singh
    7. Hav Sambhu Pd Pandey

    Best regards,
    Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    Chairman IESM

    दिनांक: गुरुवार, 9 अप्रैल, 2009, 9:58
    प्रिय साथियों,
    Jantar Mantar सक्रिय रहने के लिए जारी है.
    नई सदस्यता
    मेजर एस आर सिंह, वाराणसी के लिए धन्यवाद सदस्यता अभियान के साथ जारी है. हम नए सदस्यों के लिए एक heartful स्वागत बढ़ाने:
    1. लेफ्टिनेंट कर्नल बी एन राय
    2. लेफ्टिनेंट कर्नल KC राय
    3. मेजर Paramanand सिंह
    4. उप / मेजर Ramdhir सिंह
    5. उप / मेजर सांसद सिंह
    6. मानद कैप्टन TP राय
    7. एच / लेफ्टिनेंट Jamwant सिंह
    8. नायक शशि कांत सिंह
    9. हवलदार Sambhu PD पांडेय
    पदक की जमा
    वाराणसी से दिग्गजों के बाद भी उनके पदक जमा हैं:
    1. मेजर Parmanad सिंह
    2. लेफ्टिनेंट कर्नल KC राय
    3. उप Umakant यादव
    4. सूबेदार मेजर सांसद सिंह '
    5. एच / लेफ्टिनेंट Jamwant सिंह
    6. सूबेदार मेजर रणधीर सिंह
    7. हवलदार Sambhu PD पांडेय

    लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    अध्यक्ष IESM

    Thursday, April 9, 2009

    Letters from Readers


    I am an avid reader of your Blog. I am forwarding a link which depicts how soldiers are respected in Canada. Maybe our countrymen can learn something from this.
    With warm regards

    I would like to point out that this is an issue that has been around for a while but with it being Remembrance Day today I thought it was appropriate to share this with the world. This story is about a Canadian soldier but how many in the world can say that it could not be about one of their sons or daughters.
    Remembrance day- click me

    An article which appeared in Deccan Chronicle (Hyderabad) during Mid October, 2008 written by Vice-Admiral Arun Kumar Singh who retired as Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the Eastern Naval Command, Visakhapatnam is timely and needs to be made use of during the rally being held on 12th April, 2009.

    Relevant extract is given below :
    “India’s said history of lack of strategic vision and its inability to protect the wealth its entrepreneurs have traditionally generated resulted in about 1,300 years of foreign invasions, slaughter and subjugation, Progressively destroying the morale and respect of the military, in 61 years since Independence, will result in history repeating itself.
    The three wise ministers reviewing the armed forces’ pay, may like to remember this letter written in 320 BC by Kautilya (author of Arthasashtra) to Emperor Chandra Gupta Maurya: ”… My Lord, the day the Mauryan solider has to demand his dues, or worse, plead for them, would neither have arrived overnight nor in vain. It will also bode ill for Magadha. For then, on that day, you my Lord, will have lost all moral sanction to be king! It will also be the beginning of the end of the Mauryan Empire!!”. I sincerely hope that a placard can suitably be designed and displayed at the Rally for wide publicity.
    Col Indarpal (Retd)

    Unjust Pension Rules for Ex- Servicemen Widows


    In order to keep the armed forces young and fighting fit, every year around 60,000 men are sent out at middle age. The majority of these men are at the age group of 35 to 40 years. The pension paid is also meagre. Therefore they are forced to seek re-employment in government departments with some relaxation in age and educational qualifications through various selection process.

    Most of the re-employed ex-servicemen are in Group IV posts. Except for the age relaxation, they are not given any weightage in pay fixation, seniority or promotion in the re-employed post. These disciplined men join these departments between the age 35 to 40, 45 and retire at the age of 58 or 60 with a truncated service in the re-employed post with minimum pension.

    In the defence service also he is shunted out after 20 to 22 years service with minimum pro-rata pension, similarly in the re-employed post also he is not in a position to serve more than 20 to 22 years. Even though, his total service in both the departments exceeds 40 years, but is given minimum pro-rata pension in both the departments. Whereas his counter parts in the civil allowed to serve 33 years continuously and enjoy all the benefits like seniority, promotion etc., and retire comparatively at a higher rank/scale and pension than these poor ex-servicemen.

    When the retirement papers are prepared for pension in the re-employed post, a condition is imposed that the family pension will not be granted in the re-employed post if the ex-servicemen’s wife was entitled for a defence family pension. If at all you insist family pension in the re-employed post, you have get a confirmation from the defence pension sanctioning authorities that they will not sanction defence family pension whenever contingencies arise. This is a draconian law imposed only on poor re-employed ex-servicemen. Lot of representations were sent to government for the past 25 years to remove this rule. But till to day no response from the government. Even the 4th, 5th and the 6th CPCs did not listen to our request. The injustice continues. Even the Banks, which are having contributory pension scheme is also denying the family pension to the widows of the retired ex-servicemen bank employees.

    The position of the re-employed pensioners was worst during 4th CPC. It is the 5th CPC which brought some relief to the re-employed by allowing them to draw their both the pensions separately without any floor ceiling. Even though a number of ex-servicemen organizations put up the proposal for allowing both the family pensions to the eligible widows, but the 6th CPC did not mention any word about it at all in their report.

    One of the main reason for ignoring our demands in the past by the government is the lack of unity among our men and not coming on the streets for justice. I think now the situation is different after formation of IESM. A new stream of blood in injected into our men by our beloved organization IESM. I hope we will achieve. I hope our organization will take up this issue with government and get both pension paid to the poor widows at an early date.

    C Muthukrishnan (Ex Sgt)
    Active Member IESM

    Wednesday, April 8, 2009

    IESM: Life Insurance cover for Veterans


    The need for providing group life insurance cover to the soldiers was felt after 1971 war. More than 3843 soldiers were killed and 9851 were wounded in the 1971 Indo- Pak war which lasted for only 14 days. When the concept of Group Insurance Scheme for the armed forces was muted, even the state owned Life Insurance Corporation of India did not come forward to take up the scheme for the Armed Forces, because of the alarming death toll in the 1971 war.

    Therefore, the responsibility of creating and administering a Group Insurance Scheme was entrusted to our own senior officers. The Indian Air Force and the Indian Army started their own group schemes in the year 1975 and 1976 respectively. The efficient administration with military discipline and sincerity rendered more surplus funds to start the Post Retirement Insurance Schemes to its retired members.

    The Scheme which started with an amount of Rs.30,000 in the year 1976 for the serving personnel is now marching with 15 lacs in the Army and Rs.30 lacs in the Air Force and from Rs.65000 to 4 lacs for retired personnel in the Army and Rs.30,000 to 5 lacs for the Air Force personnel. Whenever a new scheme is introduced, the retired people are always neglected and forgotten. While we fight for the parity in pension (OROP) with the Government, we fail to implement the same benefits to our own elders even though we ourselves govern the entire schemes like this.

    For example, a person who had contributed a lump sum amount for the Post retirement insurance scheme in the year 1981, is now out of the scheme without any benefit. General O.P.Malhotra, the then Chief of the Army Staff, whom I presume to be the first person to start and join the extended insurance scheme in the Army is now out of the scheme without any benefit. Because, the terms and conditions which was framed by our own men stipulates that the benefits are available within a period of 15 years or 70 years of age whichever is earlier, renders him ineligible for any benefit. Can we not accommodate the elders like him in the scheme, even by charging some additional contribution to the extended scheme. Nothing is impossible, if we have the will to do. After all, every one is going to die one day. The cut off age and the cut off term period framed by our own men should not come in the way for depriving any benefit. Some small amount of death benefit must be given to all the Post Retirement Scheme members irrespective of age and term.

    With profound grief and tears in my eyes, I want to narrate a real life story of an Ex Sgt Krishnawamy, Engine Fitter, of Indian Air Force. A decorated Airman, with a number of commendation certificates and cash awards for his dedicated work as a Engine Fitter in the Air Force, was discharged from Air Force in Aug 1989. 14 years after his discharge from Air Force, it was detected that his days are counted at a faster rate due to chest cancer. A detailed diagnosis revealed that it was an occupational hazard that had attributed to this decease. The hard work he had to put up in the Air Force to service the 2nd world war type Air crafts such as Dakota, Fairchild Packet which had earned him Commendation certificates, but these substandard aviation machines taken his life by slowly poisoning his body. A renowned cancer institute expressed their inability for any further treatment.

    As I was close associate of the family, I tried to mobilize financial assistance from wherever possible. During our search for help in his home, Sgt Krishnasamy himself with great difficulty opened a cupboard in his house and took out the Air Force Group Insurance Society’s post retirement insurance memorandum and asked me to find out whether his family can get any thing out of that. He knows very well that the AFGIS comes into effect after his death. But he does not know that the cut off date in the memorandum is going to expire in a few days, which will make his wife ineligible for the claim of Rs.40,000/ as per the memorandum. Considering the situation my heart and soul went out of way to pray for his peaceful death within the cut off date (As it is, we all know that his death is certain in few days) so that his family will get at least that amount as a last rescue from starvation. Alas! it did not happen. The date of death succeeded in denying the insurance benefit to the family. This tragic event triggered me to make this appeal to the society, so that if possible, it could be prevented to some extent for the future generation. Let me not come across any such tragic experience any more. If not the full amount, at least some amount to meet the funeral expenses may be given by the Group insurance society, to the old veterans whose contributions were the foundations for this great Institution. Let us set an example to others instead of begging the politicians and bureaucrats.

    The Indian Armed Forces are well known for its clean administrative skills. Therefore there is nothing impossible, if there is a will to do. Will the concerned authorities in the three services consider the request sympathetically and implement it immediately so that every member of the extended insurance scheme get some grant at the time of his death. This may be done with retrospective date so that no one is hurt on any cut off dates.

    C Muthukrishnan, (Ex Sgt)
    Active Member IESM

    Now, jawans can buy cars from CSD

    10 Dec 2008, 0405 hrs IST, Ajay
    CHANDIGARH: Buying cars from defence canteens at prices much lower than that of the market has been for ages a privilege of commissioned officers. Not anymore. The Army has now decided to allow jawans too to avail the same facility, from next month. The move opens up a hitherto untapped market for the troubled auto industry in the form of lakhs of defence personnel.

    The jawans or Persons Below Officers' Rank (PBOR) in Army parlance, can buy any four-wheeler up to 1300cc. They will need a certificate from their commanding officer vouchsafing the applicant's finances for the purchase.

    The decision has been taken by the Director General Canteen Services of Army headquarters. A letter sent by Deputy Director General Canteen Services Brigadier I P Singh says serving and retired PBOR will be allowed to buy cars from defence canteens. There will, however, be some conditions to avoid misuse, like an undertaking that the car wouldn't be sold for two years.

    Soldiers of the Army, Air Force or Navy who have completed 15 years of service or ex-servicemen who have been "released honourably" are entitled to the facility. A used car can be bought from CSD after a seven-year gap. Any violation of the conditions will attract full payment of the exempted excise duty or sale tax, defence sources said.
    Now, Jawans can buy cars from CSD

    10 दिसम्बर 2008, 0405 बजे IST, अजय
    चंडीगढ़: कीमतें अधिक हैं कि बाजार की तुलना में कम में रक्षा canteens से ख़रीदना कारें उम्र के लिए कमीशन अधिकारियों की एक विशेष अधिकार दिया गया है. अब ऐसा नहीं है. सेना अब लाभ भी करने के लिए एक ही सुविधा जवानों की अनुमति देने के लिए, अगले माह से निर्णय लिया है. इस कदम को परेशान ऑटो उद्योग के लिए रक्षा कर्मियों के लाखों के रूप में अब तक एक अप्रयुक्त बाजार को खोलता है.

    सेना की भाषा में जवानों या व्यक्तियों के नीचे अधिकारी रैंक (PBOR), किसी भी चार 1300cc करने व्हीलर को खरीद सकते हैं. वे अपने कमांडिंग अधिकारी को खरीदने के लिए आवेदक की वित्तीय vouchsafing से एक प्रमाण पत्र की आवश्यकता होगी.

    इस निर्णय के महानिदेशक कैंटीन सेवाओं सेना मुख्यालय द्वारा लिया गया है. एक पत्र उप महानिदेशक कैंटीन सेवा ब्रिगेडियर आईपी सिंह ने और रक्षा canteens से कारें खरीदने के लिए अनुमति दी जाएगी सेवानिवृत्त PBOR सेवा कहते हैं भेजा. तथापि, एक उपक्रम है कि गाड़ी के दो साल के लिए बेचा नहीं होगा तरह दुरुपयोग से बचने के लिए कुछ शर्तें, हो जाएगा.

    सेना, वायुसेना और नौसेना के सैनिक जो सेवा या पूर्व की 15 साल की है जो 'सम्मानजनक' जारी किया गया है सैनिकों की सुविधा के हकदार हैं पूरा कर लिया है. एक प्रयोग किया कार सीएसडी से एक सात साल के अंतराल के बाद खरीदा जा सकता है. शर्तों का कोई भी उल्लंघन की छूट दी उत्पाद शुल्क या बिक्री कर का पूरा भुगतान को आकर्षित करेगा, रक्षा सूत्रों ने कहा.
    अब, जवानों सीएसडी से कार खरीद सकते हैं

    IESM Members meet the President to demand pension parity

    One month ago
    Tue, Mar 10 06:04 PM
    New Delhi, March 10 (IANS) Continuing their long-running fight for 'one rank, one pension', ex-soldiers have met President Pratibha Patil, the supreme commander of the armed forces, and reiterated their demand for pension parity.

    A seven-member delegation of the Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM) submitted a memorandum in this regard to Patil late Monday evening.

    "The president patiently listened to the delegation's briefing on the demand and reasons behind it. We presented the memorandum requesting her intervention in the matter," Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, who is vice chairman of IESM, told IANS Tuesday.

    Several soldiers earlier returned their gallantry and distinguished services medals to the president to register their protest against the government's continued apathy to their demand.

    IESM is demanding that irrespective of the date on which a soldier retires, he should get equal pension at each rank for the same length of service with the amount rising every time there is a wage revision.

    The ex-servicemen are upset at the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission, which did not address the 'one rank, one pension' issue.

    The government continues to reject the demand on administrative and financial grounds.
    Ex-servicemen meet president, demand pension parity

    एक महीने पहले
    मंगलवार, 10 मार्च 06:04
    नई दिल्ली, 10 मार्च (IANS) उनकी लंबी लड़ाई 'के लिए एक पेंशन', पूर्व सैनिकों के राष्ट्रपति प्रतिभा पाटिल, सशस्त्र बलों के सर्वोच्च कमांडर मिले हैं और पेंशन समता के लिए उनकी मांग दोहराई एक पद, दौड़ जारी है.

    एक सात भारतीय पूर्व की सदस्यीय प्रतिनिधिमंडल-कर्मियों आंदोलन (IESM) पाटिल को इस संबंध में सोमवार देर शाम को एक ज्ञापन दिया.

    "राष्ट्रपति धैर्य की मांग है और इसके पीछे कारणों पर प्रतिनिधिमंडल की जानकारी देने की बात सुनी. हम ज्ञापन इस मामले में उसके हस्तक्षेप का अनुरोध प्रस्तुत किया," मेजर जनरल (सेवानिवृत्त) Satbir सिंह, जो IESM के उपाध्यक्ष के अध्यक्ष है, मंगलवार IANS कहा था.

    कई सैनिकों पहले उनकी मांग को सरकार की उदासीनता के खिलाफ अपना विरोध जारी रखा रजिस्टर करने के लिए उनकी वीरता और विशिष्ट सेवाओं के लिए राष्ट्रपति पदक लौटा.

    IESM कि जिस पर एक सैनिक सेवानिवृत्त की तिथि भले की, वह राशि हर बार वहाँ एक वेतन संशोधन के साथ बढ़ती है सेवा की इसी अवधि के लिए प्रत्येक पद पर समान पेंशन मिलना चाहिए की मांग कर रहा है.

    पूर्व सैनिकों ने छठे वेतन आयोग, जो 'एक पद, एक पेंशन' मुद्दे को पता नहीं था की सिफारिशों पर परेशान कर रहे हैं.

    सरकार ने प्रशासनिक और वित्तीय आधार पर इस माँग को अस्वीकार करने के लिए जारी है.
    भूतपूर्व सैनिक अध्यक्ष, मांग को पूरा पेंशन समता

    IESM: Fast for Justice- hundred and twelveth day

    Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 10:19 PM
    Dear Colleagues,
    Our venue at Jantar Mantar remains active.
    Maha Rally 12 April 2009
    There is a pro-IESM wave sweeping across Northern India. Reports have been flooding in of ESM from Haryana and Rajasthan joining the Rally in large numbers irrespective of their affiliation to any other organisation. Haryana alone is expected to send 10,000 participants. Resources are being mobilised. Mrs Usha Ahlawat, w/o Late Colonel DS Ahlawat, JAT, has set the ball rolling by contributing Rs 2,100.00 for the purpose.
    Voting Advisory
    Views are being sent on what line to take on the issue. Gist is:
    1. Going by bitter experience vis-a-vis OROP, we should be chary of trusting any Party.
    2. Politics being a dangerous minefield a careful trudge is advocated.
    3. Language/ wording should be carefully crafted and the message diplomatically conveyed.
    4. The announcement should not be a free-for-all and should be made only by the Chairman towards the end. (Our well wisher has suggested that it be done at 1420 hours on 12 April).
    All the above points of view deserve respect and will be kept in mind. Consideration will also be given to:
    1. The environment has been seeking a clear-cut advice.
    2. Pros and cons of a mid-course two-boat-ride stance versus a clear lean without ambiguity.
    3. Not overlooking the fact that though the old issue of OROP has been ditched by various parties in the past, at no time had its pursuit gathered this much steam at national level and no politician will be able to brush the issue under the carpet. Whatever advice that is given will be with due objectivity and neutrality and based only on the interests of the ESM community.
    Best regards,
    Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    Chairman IESM

    तिथि: मंगलवार, 7 अप्रैल, 2009, 10:19
    प्रिय साथियों,
    Jantar Mantar में हमारी स्थल सक्रिय रहता है.
    महा रैली 12 अप्रैल 2009
    एक समर्थक IESM लहर उत्तरी भारत भर में व्यापक है. रिपोर्ट के ESM हरियाणा और राजस्थान से किसी भी अन्य संगठन से संबद्धता भले के बड़ी संख्या में इस रैली में शामिल होने में बाढ़ की गई है. हरियाणा अकेले 10000 प्रतिभागियों भेजने की संभावना है. संसाधन जुटाए जा रहे हैं. श्रीमती उषा Ahlawat, w / ओ स्वर्गीय कर्नल डी एस Ahlawat, जाट, गेंद को इस प्रयोजन के लिए 2100.00 रुपए योगदान करके रोलिंग निर्धारित किया है.
    वोटिंग सलाहकार
    दर्शाव क्या लाइन पर इस मुद्दे पर लेने के लिए भेजा जा रहा है. तात्पर्य यह है:
    1. कड़वा अनुभव विज़ से जा रहे एक-विज़ OROP, हम किसी भी पार्टी पर भरोसा करने की एहतियाती होना चाहिए.
    2. राजनीति एक सावधान trudge वकालत की है एक खतरनाक (minefield) खदान जा रहा है.
    3. भाषा/ शब्द सावधानी से तैयार की जाती है और यह संदेश होना चाहिए कूटनीतिक जानकारी दी.
    4. यह घोषणा नहीं की जानी चाहिए एक मुक्त करने के लिए सभी और अध्यक्ष द्वारा केवल अंत में किया जाना चाहिए. (हमारी शुभचिंतक है कि उस पर 1420 घंटों में किया जा सुझाव दिया गया है 12 अप्रैल).
    देखने के सब से ऊपर अंक और सम्मान के पात्र को ध्यान में रखा जाएगा. विचार करने के लिए भी दिया जाएगा:
    1. पर्यावरण एक स्पष्ट सलाह की मांग की गई है.
    2. पेशेवरों और एक मध्य कोर्स दो से विपक्ष-नाव-बनाम सवारी दृष्टिकोण एक अस्पष्टता के बिना दुबला साफ है.
    3. नहीं, इस तथ्य के बावजूद एक रॅँक, एक पेंशन (OROP) के पुराने मुद्दे को अतीत में विभिन्न दलों द्वारा, नहीं समय पर धोखा दिया गया है कि राष्ट्रीय स्तर पर और कोई राजनेता कालीन के तहत इस मुद्दे को ब्रश करने में सक्षम हो जाएगा इतना भाप इकट्ठे हुए इसकी खोज की थी देखती. उस वजह से वस्तुनिष्ठता और तटस्थता और भूतपूर्व सैनिक (ESM) समुदाय के हितों की ही पर आधारित के साथ की जाएगी जो भी सलाह दी जाती है.
    लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    अध्यक्ष भारतीय भूतपूर्व सैनिक आंदोलन (IESM)

    Tuesday, April 7, 2009

    क्या भूतपूर्व सैनिक विधवाओं और शराब पीने की आवश्यकता है? इसके लिए लिए किसने कहा था?

    बाद छठे केन्द्रीय वेतन आयोग पेंशन दुख अब विधवाओं शराब के अतिरिक्त झपकी के साथ उनकी आत्माओं को बढ़ावा कर सकते हैं

    मैं इस मुद्दे मई अनुरोध है कि पिछले 27 वर्षों के लिए PBORs दिग्गजों के साथ अपने अनुभव के रूप में लिया पर चर्चा की है. शराब के मुद्दे पर उनकी सोच की क्षमता और जीवन की गुणवत्ता खराब था. वे एक साथ किसी भी अन्य असैनिक कर्मचारियों की तरह एक एकीकृत संघर्ष के लिए शामिल नहीं है. मैं इस विषय बहुत नाजुक है.
    सी Muthukrishnan, (पूर्व सार्जेंट)
    सक्रिय सदस्य IESM

    मेरे प्रिय दिग्गजों (नीचे श्रेणी कार्मिकों अधिकारी) इस पर विचार कृपया
    मुझे पूरा विश्वास है कि इस विषय एक नाजुक एक है वाकिफ हूँ. लेकिन फिर, मैं अपने समुदाय के कुछ बुरा इच्छाशक्ति नौकरशाहों की बदसूरत डिजाइनों में बर्बाद नहीं करना चाहता. हाँ. समय हमारे लिए बहस करने के लिए आ गया है. हमें स्पष्ट बोलते हैं. हम शराब की ज़रूरत है? आप हमारे दुर्भाग्यपूर्ण भाइयों की विधवाओं चाहते हैं और हो शराबियों को शराब की कैंटीन द्वारा जारी पेय? या आप उन्हें किसी और को अपनी आजीविका के लिए एक उच्च कीमत पर शराब बेचने के लिए अच्छा लगता है? आपको प्रोत्साहित करते हैं और हमारे भाइयों और बहनों के लिए इस तरह के एक जीवन की सदस्यता? अगर हम सब दिल से इन सवालों का जवाब, जवाब होगा एक बड़ा 'नहीं'. हम सब में शराब की जरूरत नहीं है. हम इसके लिए कभी नहीं पूछा.

    इसके बजाय, हम सब की ज़रूरत है बेहतर पुनः है हमारे बच्चों, चावल, आटा जैसी आवश्यक वस्तुओं की आपूर्ति, तेल खाना पकाने के लिए रोजगार के अवसर, बेहतर पेंशन, अच्छे स्वास्थ्य की देखभाल, बेहतर शिक्षा, तो आगे उचित मूल्य पर गैस पकाने. तो फिर क्यों में सब सरकार ने पूर्व सैनिकों और उनकी विधवाओं को शराब बेच रहा है?

    आप सभी जानते करने के लिए आश्चर्य होगा कि जब हजारों और पूर्व पिछले 60 वर्षों के लिए भारत के पूर्व सैनिकों आंदोलन के इतिहास में कई सेवानिवृत्त जनरल सहित सैनिकों, कभी नहीं, और उनके परिवारों को 16.12 से एक रिले भूख हड़ताल पर बैठे हैं हजारों. 2008 Jantar Mantar, नई दिल्ली में (आज 110. दिन की जा रही) एक रैंक एक पेंशन, पूर्व सैनिकों (canteens) कैन्टीन अचानक समान रूप से सभी विधवाओं के लिए 2 इकाइयों से 3 इकाइयों को 1.1.2009 से शराब कोटा में वृद्धि की मांग की. यह एक कैंटीन प्रबंधक से खबर की पुष्टि की है. अब आप कल्पना कर सकते हैं इसलिए मैं अब इस मुद्दे को बाहर ले गया? हालाँकि हम सभी बेहतर पेंशन की मांग कर रहे हैं, वे विधवाओं के लिए और अधिक शराब कोटा, पेशकश कर रहे हैं वह भी सैनिकों की सेवा का कोटा कम करने से. अब तुम इस के पीछे की मंशा की कल्पना कर सकते हैं? यह रूप में एक मास्टर एक कुत्ते के भौंकने की मीठी रोटी फेंकने के रूप में जब वह अपने घर को बचाने की कोशिश करता है अच्छा है. इसमें निहित स्वार्थों द्वारा एक विचार प्रयास इन 2 लाख पूर्व सैनिकों को गुमराह करने के लिए है. मेरे प्यारे दिग्गजों इस पर विचार कीजिए. इन समुद्री डाकू का शिकार गिर मत करो.

    हम एक साथ एक बैनर अर्थात् भारतीय पूर्व तहत कर्मियों आंदोलन में शामिल हो और या तो स्वीकार करना या हमारे भविष्य की भलाई के लिए शराब के इस प्रस्ताव को अस्वीकार कर एक निर्णय लेते हैं. के लिए अच्छी तरह से एक समुदाय के होने के नाते, बहुमत के निर्णय पर राज करेंगे. इसलिए, यह हमारी महान संगठन के लिए इस मामले में अपने लक्ष्यों की प्राप्ति के लिए कुछ कठोर निर्णय लेने का समय है. यह विचार इस मेल में व्यक्त मुख्यतः के बारे में 20 लाख PBORs और कौन शराब दुरुपयोग और दुरुपयोग के शिकार बनने की संभावना है उनके परिवारों के लिए लागू कर रहे हैं. "शराब निर्भरता" एक बढ़ती बेचैनी और कई पूर्व सैनिकों परिवारों को बर्बाद कर रही है और आगे के सम्मान और सैनिकों की स्थिति कम. जय हिन्द, लंबे समय तक रहना सैनिकों एकता IESM में.
    वेतन दुख के बाद, शराब कटौती सशस्त्र बलों को मारा

    सैन्य ऊपर शराब शराबी है
    नई दिल्ली: यदि एक वयस्क भारतीय, औसत पर, एक वर्ष में एक भारतीय सैनिक एक पेय 20 लिटर-और शराब की एक काम में लाना एक टपकना. सेना ने देश में शराब की सबसे आयोजित शराबी के रूप में, सिर नौ प्रति लीटर की एक वार्षिक खपत के साथ है, (Malayalees) है । दक्षिण-भारत , भारत की सबसे बड़ी शराब वाली समुदाय के कम से कम एक लीटर में अधिक उभरा है. यद्यपि शराब की खपत अभी भी ठीक नहीं कि देश में प्रलेखित है, प्रति व्यक्ति औसत खपत (जनसंख्या के लिए 15 और इससे अधिक आयु वर्ग) एक छोटे से एक लीटर से कम है, विश्व स्वास्थ्य संगठन के आंकड़ों के अनुसार है.

    उत्तर सैन्य canteens में शराब की बिक्री पर एक विस्तृत प्रश्नावली, डीएनए द्वारा के तहत दायर करने के लिए सूचना के अधिकार (आरटीआई के लिए) अधिनियम, जो हमारे सैनिकों, हार्ड शराब का एक चक्कर 1.1 करोड़ बोतलें - रम, वोदका, व्हिस्की खपत और ब्रांडी शो 2007 - नहीं, बीयर और विविध मदिरा के 1.2 लाख बोतलों का उल्लेख करने के लिए. 2008 में एक विचलता 2.5 लाख बोतलों मुश्किल और विविध मदिरा.

    कोई आश्चर्य नहीं है, फिर, शराब कोटा सैन्य कैन्टीन में बेचे में हाल की कटौती के पुरुषों और महिलाओं वर्दी में की आत्माओं लड़खड़ा. यद्यपि यह धीरे धीरे को किक खोने के रम सबसे पसंद हो, जारी है. दूसरी ओर वोदका की बिक्री,, एक तिगुना पिछले चार वर्षों में वृद्धि देखी है. "बहुत से सेना पत्नियों पीना, और वे वोद्का पसंद करते हैं," जो दिखता है एक अधिकारी कुछ कैन्टीन के बाद कहा था. "यह व्हिस्की और रम की तुलना में प्रकाश है." ताज्जुब की बात है कि पुराने भिक्षु, का और दिग्गजों के पुराने मनपसंद एक जैसा, सबसे ज्यादा बेचा रम नहीं है. यह मुकुट सेना का अपना Contessa को जाता है.

    टिप्पणी: शराब निर्भरता, दुरुपयोग और मौद्रिक लाभ के लिए दुरुपयोग निश्चित रूप से दोनों और ESM सेवा की सशस्त्र सेना की छवि खराब कर रहे हैं. अपराधियों ने सीएसडी कैन्टीन सशस्त्र बल और एनसीसी यूनिटों द्वारा चलाए जा रहे हैं. इस सीएसडी डिपो में असैनिक कर्मचारियों / यूनिट कैन्टीन कैंटीन के अधिकारियों के साथ मिलीभगत (में कैन्टीन अधिकारियों के साथ सांठ-गांठ) में है, शराब के नागरिक बाजार में लगाना और सशस्त्र बलों की छवि को आम में एक बुरा नाम लाने की खोज कर पाने में असमर्थ और सुरक्षित तरीके खोजना.

    IESM: Fast for Justice- hundred and eleventh day

    Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 8:38 PM
    Dear Colleagues,
    The Jantar Mantar venue continues to remain activated.
    Maha Rally 12 April 2009
    I have reconfirmed from Rashtra Pathi Bhawan. They would be ready to receive the medals on 12 April at 1530 hours as we have requested. The President would reportedly be out of town. Based on my specific query they confirmed that she has been informed of the 12 April depositing of medals. Delhi Police has been sensitized to the need for security in view of the prevailing scenario. I have assured them the participants would fully cooperate in enforcing security measures.
    Best regards,
    Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    Chairman IESM

    दिनांक: सोमवार, 6 अप्रैल, 2009, 8:38
    प्रिय साथियों,
    इस स्थल Jantar Mantar सक्रिय रहने के लिए जारी है.
    महा रैली 12 अप्रैल 2009
    मैं राष्ट्र Pathi भवन से गया है. जैसा कि हम अनुरोध किया है कि वे 1530 घंटे में 12 अप्रैल को पदक प्राप्त करने के लिए तैयार किया जाएगा. राष्ट्रपति ने शहर से बाहर किया जाएगा. अपनी विशिष्ट प्रश्न पर वे कहते हैं कि वह 12 अप्रैल पदक की जमा के बारे में सूचित कर दिया गया है पुष्टि आधारित. दिल्ली पुलिस के वर्तमान परिदृश्य को देखते हुए सुरक्षा की आवश्यकता को बना कर दिया गया है. मैं उन्हें पूरी तरह से सुरक्षा उपायों को लागू करने में सहयोग करेंगे प्रतिभागियों का आश्वासन दिया है.

    लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    अध्यक्ष IESM

    Do Ex- Servicemen and widows need liquor? Who asked for it?

    After Sixth Central Pay Commission Pension Sorrows now widows can boost their spirits with extra doze of booze

    I think the issue discussed may kindly taken as my experience with the PBORs veterans for the past 27 years. The issue of liquor had deteriorated their thinking ability and quality of life. They don't join together for a unified struggle like any other civilian employees. I know the subject is very delicate.
    C Muthukrishnan, (Ex Sgt)
    Active Member IESM

    I am fully aware that the subject is a delicate one. But then, I don’t want my community to get ruined in the ugly designs of a few ill- willed bureaucrats. Yes. Time has come for us to debate. Let us frankly speak. Do we need liquor? Do you wish the widows of our unfortunate brothers drink the liquor issued by the Canteen and become alcoholics? Or do you like them to sell the liquor to someone else at a higher price for their livelihood? Do you encourage and subscribe to such a life for our brothers and sisters? If we all sincerely answer these questions, the answer will be a big ‘NO’. We don’t need the liquor at all. We never asked for it.

    Instead, we all need is better re-employment opportunities, better pension, good health care, better education for our children, supply of essential commodities like rice, atta, cooking oil, cooking gas so forth at reasonable prices. Then why at all the Government is selling liquor to the ex-servicemen and their widows?

    You all will be surprised to know that while thousands and thousands of ex-servicemen including many retired Generals, never in the history of Indian ex-servicemen movement for the last 60 years, and their families are sitting on a relay hunger strike from 16.12.2008 at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi (today being the 110th day) demanding One Rank One Pension, the ex-servicemen canteens suddenly increased the liquor quota uniformly to all the widows from 2 units to 3 units from 1.1.2009. This is confirmed news from one Canteen Manager. Now can you imagine why I took out the issue now? While we all are demanding better pension, they are offering more liquor quota for widows, that too by reducing the quota of serving soldiers. Can you now imagine the intention behind this? This is as good as a master throwing sweetened bread to a barking dog when it tries to protect his own house. There is a deliberate attempt by vested interests to mislead these 2 million ex-servicemen. My dear veterans please think it over. Don’t fall prey to these pirates.

    Let us join together under one banner i.e. Indian Ex-servicemen Movement and take a decision either to accept or reject this offer of liquor for our future well being. For the well being of a community, the decision of the majority will rule. Therefore, it is the time for our great organization to take some tough decision in this matter for the achievement of our goals. The views expressed in this mail are mainly applicable to about 20 lakh PBORs and their families who are likely to become victims of alcohol abuse and misuse. "Alcohol dependency" a growing malaise is ruining many Ex Servicemen families and further lowering the honour and status of Soldiers. Jai Hind, Long Live Soldiers Unity in IESM.
    After pay sorrow, booze cuts hit armed forces

    Military is top liquor guzzler
    New Delhi: If an adult Indian, on average, consumes a trickle of alcohol in a year, an Indian soldier guzzles a bucketful. The military has emerged as the single most organised guzzler of liquor in the country, with an annual consumption of nine litres per head, at least a litre more than the Malayalees, India's biggest alcohol-consuming community. Though alcohol consumption is still not well documented in the country, the average per capita consumption (for population aged 15 and above) is a little less than a litre, according to World Health Organisation figures.

    Reply to a detailed questionnaire on the sale of liquor in military canteens, filed by DNA under the Right To Information (RTI) Act, shows that our soldiers consumed a staggering 1.1 crore bottles of hard liquor-- rum, vodka, whiskey, and brandy-- in 2007, not to mention 1.2 million bottles of beer and sundry wines. In 2008 a staggering 2.5 million bottles hard and sundry wines.

    No wonder, then, the recent cut in liquor quota sold in military canteens dampened the spirits of the men and women in uniform. Rum continues to be the most preferred choice, though it's gradually losing the kick. Vodka sales, on the other hand, have seen a threefold rise in the last four years. "Many army wives drink, and they prefer vodka," said an officer who looks after a few canteens. "It is light compared to whisky and rum." Surprisingly, Old Monk, the old favourite of beginners and veterans alike, is not the most sold rum. That crown goes to the military's own Contessa.

    Comment: Alcohol dependency, abuse and misuse for monetary gains are certainly ruining the image of the armed forces of both serving and ESM. The culprits are the CSD Canteens run by Armed Forces and NCC units. The civilian staff in the CSD depots/ Unit Canteens find undetectable and safe ways (in connivance with canteen officials), of disposing of liquor in the civilian markets and bringing a bad name to the image of the Armed Forces in general.

    Monday, April 6, 2009

    IESM fighting for justice

    Dear Friends,
    Jai Hind.
    The IESM rally report from UNA, Himachal Pradesh is reproduced below. As per the reports coming to "Report My Signal" and IESM Headquarters from various states of India, all ESM, including State Presidents and members of IESL, are whole heartedly supporting the IESM movement.

    For information of members I also wish to state that All the Members of Steering Committee of IESM are also members of IESL. We all were members of IESL when we felt the urgent need to raise this federation of ESM organisations now called IESM. IESM came into existence on 13 Aug 08 at Noida, when a meeting of large number of ESM organisations and ESM gathered together. ESM came from large number of states for this meeting- from as far as Kerala and Tamil Nadu in South and Himachal and Uttrakhand in North.

    The major initiative for the meeting at Noida on 13 Aug 08, was that of Col SS Rajan, currently Convener IESM Karnataka and Member Steering Committee IESM; the credit for the success of that meeting on 13 Aug 08, goes to hard work by all the present members of the Steering Committee, State Conveners and the ESM who came for that meeting with a open and positive mind.
    In Service of Indian Military Veterans
    Chander Kamboj.

    A report on ESM rally held at UNA (HP), on 05 Apr 2009, is sent here under. All present vigorously supported actions being taken by IESM regarding OROP. There was a general agreement that ESM should join IESM & thus support them in their vital endeavour in the interest of all retired personnel. Pictures taken at the rally will follow.
    Brig Charan Singh (Retd)

    A rally was organized at UNA (HP) by the UNA ESM group to discuss the issue of One Rank One Pension. The rally was attended by about 150 ESMs of all ranks, senior ones being Maj Gen Bikram Singh AVSM*, VSM, Brig Charan Singh, Cols T S Jaswal, DP Vashist, Kuldip Singh, Ajmer Singh, Sat Dev Singh. Prominent among Hon Capts were D S Minhas, Bhagat Singh & quite a few more. Sqn Ldr BL Dhiman came from Hamirpur (HP) with a few companions.

    First to address the gathering was Maj Gen Bikram Singh (immediate Former President IESL- previous 8 years). He very strongly emphasized the need for unity amongst all ESM organizations in the country to achieve their common goal of OROP. He strongly supported the actions being taken by IESM & urged the ESM of UNA area to join this organization in large numbers to extend support to the just cause.

    Brig Charan Singh stated that it was very sad that the status of soldiers who are the protectors of country’s progress & freedom has been downgraded by the successive pay commissions for reasons known only to authorities. He mentioned that all political parties did accept the principle of OROP during elections but they cleanly forget their promise when in power. He recounted the vast disparities in pensions of various pre & post 1/1/ 2006 retiree ESM ranks which are causing great dissatisfaction amongst them & this dissatisfaction will surely spill over to the serving armed forces personnel also. He said that these disparities cannot be removed unless OROP is granted by the Government. He emphasised that the worst affected are PBOR.

    CPO NA (Navy) Rajinder Sharma vigorously stated that ESM need to fight for their rightful dues in a united manner. Cols T S Jaswal & Kuldip Singh VSM also enjoined upon the gathered ESM to join IESM to give this organization required strength to fight for the cherished goal of OROP. At the end, life membership forms of IESM were distributed & the recipients were requested to return them within a week to the Army Canteen after duly completing them. After receipt, these completed forms will be sent to IESM HQ. Next rally date was fixed for 19 April 2009 in Santoshgarh (HP) constituency.

    Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 4:37 PM
    Dear Brig Kamboj,
    1. Heartiest congratulations to you ,Gen Kadyan and all members of IESM.
    2. Manifesto of a National Political Party, possibly for the first time has brought out in clear terms their resolve to implement OROP.I strongly feel that this has been possible for the untiring effort on the part of you all. I was thrilled on seeing the TV news on this on 03 Apr 09. I am confident that with such sustained effort, other Political Parties and Organisations too would fall in line to pursue this very important issue.
    Best regards.
    Brig Pushpal De (Retd)

    IESM has its own website now

    Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 12:26 PM
    Dear Veterans,
    The IESM web site is reasonably ready and is functional. You are all advised to:
  • Keep abreast with events through the site.
  • New members to register on site. Payment still to be done either through direct deposit in your local HDFC Bank or by cheque through post to IESM's registered address. Arrangements to get 'Payment Gateway' for payment through Credit Cards under consideration.
  • Soon all existing membership data will get enetered on the site and you will be able to see your details on the site itself.
  • Membership Number will be allotted in due course.

    The web site is still to be improved with more functionalities and regular updates. This will be an on going process.

    The site has been prepared 'pro-bono' by Col RN Ghosh (Retd), a gunner, and for the time being his Company Staff manages it too. In due course, we shall have to take it upon ourselves. IESM family extends its sincere appreciation and thanks to Col Ghosh for his contribution.

    Friends, I request you all to pass the word around to max veterans through mails & groups that you control.
    Maj Gen (Retd) PK Renjen, AVSM
    IESM webpage click here
  • SCPC: A grave injustice to pre- 2006 defence pensioners

    The 6th CPC recommended a same pay band PB-1 (5200-20200) for the three lower ranks (Sepoy, Naik and Havildar) and did not stipulate the maximum scale of pay for each rank to calculate the revised pension. Same is the case for the officers. Pension tables were prepared (Annexure II for Officers and Annexure III for PBOR) by taking the minimum pay of Rs.5200 for all the ranks (Sepoy to Hav) the same amount. How can the same basic pension of sepoy be taken for three different ranks to arrive at a revised pension for higher PBOR ranks? What is the justice for Senior/ Junior ranks?

    The MOD officials have grossly erred, knowing very well that it a deliberate injustice. The tables Annexure II and III clearly showed reduction in the pension for Senior Ranks and increase in the pension for junior ranks. Even then the MOD did not attempt to correct or balance the tables so that the senior ranks are not affected. The MOD officials intelligently waved hand to refer Annexure I whenever Annexure II or III is not beneficial. It is a great mockery of justice. The officials responsible for this great/ grave mistake should be made to accept the fact and the entire orders on the revision of pension for the 6th CPC for the Defence pensioners (Pre 2006) to be withdrawn and re-issued in consultation with the representatives of the All India Ex-servicemen Organisations like IESM pending final decision by the government on the subject.

    Detailed studies are being made on the subject with limited resources by ESM and their organisations. Unless the government comes out with clear orders on the subject and initiates immediate remedial measures, the adverse reactions are bound to demoralise the the ESM community further. In layman’s language, it is a question of cheating two million defence pensioners (Pre 2006) by the bureaucrats with the tip of their pens with tight lips and creating more anomalies to confuse the simple soldier.

    C Muthukrishnan (Ex Sgt)
    Active Member IESM

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    इस 6. सीपीसी और एक समान वेतन बैंड PB-1 (5200-20200) के तीन कम रैंक के लिए (भारतीय सिपाही, नायक और हवलदार) की सिफारिश की प्रत्येक पद के लिए संशोधित पेंशन की गणना करने के लिए भुगतान की अधिकतम वेतनमान निर्धारित नहीं किया. उसी के अधिकारियों के लिए भी ऐसा ही मामला है. पेंशन के लिए तालिकाओं PBOR अधिकारियों और अनुबंध क्ष्क्ष्क्ष् के लिए) सभी रैंकों के लिए (भारतीय सिपाही हवलदार करने के लिए) एक ही राशि Rs.5200 की न्यूनतम वेतन लेने से (संलग्नक तैयार किए गए. कैसे कर सकते हैं भारतीय सिपाही तीन विभिन्न रैंकों के लिए उच्च नीचे से पंक्ति अधिकारी कार्मिक (PBOR) रैंकों के लिए एक संशोधित पेंशन पर आने के लिए उठाए जाने का एक ही मूल पेंशन? क्या वरिष्ठ के लिए न्याय / जूनियर रैंकों है?

    इस रक्षा मंत्रालय अधिकारियों निहायत, अच्छी तरह पता है कि यह एक विचार अन्याय जानने भटकना है. अनुबंध द्वितीय और तृतीय साफ रैंक के वरिष्ठ और कनिष्ठ रैंकों के लिए पेंशन में वृद्धि के लिए पेंशन में कमी दिखाई इस सारणी. फिर भी इस mod सही करने के लिए या तो यह है कि वरिष्ठ रैंकों प्रभावित नहीं कर रहे हैं मेज़ों संतुलन का प्रयास नहीं किया. इस mod अधिकारियों होशियारी जब अनुबंध द्वितीय या तृतीय लाभप्रद नहीं है अनुबंध मैं उल्लेख करने के लिए हाथ लहराया. यह न्याय का एक बड़ा मजाक है. यह अधिकारी इस महान/ गंभीर गलती के लिए और रक्षा पेंशनरों के लिए 6. सीपीसी के लिए पेंशन का संशोधन पर पूरे आदेश (पूर्व 2006) इस तथ्य को स्वीकार करने के लिए किया जाना चाहिए जिम्मेदार वापस लिया जाए और फिर से परामर्श के प्रतिनिधियों के साथ जारी किए अखिल भारतीय पूर्व IESM तरह कर्मियों संगठनों ने सरकार द्वारा इस विषय पर अंतिम निर्णय लंबित है.

    विस्तृत अध्ययन भूतपूर्व सैनिकों (ESM) और उनके संगठनों द्वारा सीमित संसाधनों के साथ इस विषय पर किए जा रहे हैं. जब तक सरकार इस विषय पर स्पष्ट आदेशों के साथ बाहर आता है और तत्काल सुधारात्मक उपायों की प्रतिकूल प्रतिक्रिया गुरूओं आगे को ESM समुदाय नष्ट करना करने के लिए बाध्य कर रहे हैं. आम आदमी की भाषा में, यह तंग होंठों के साथ अपनी कलम की नोक से नौकरशाहों द्वारा (पूर्व 2006) बीस लाख रक्षा पेंशनरों को धोखा दे का सवाल है और सरल सैनिक को भ्रमित करने के लिए और अधिक विसंगतियाँ पैदा.

    सी Muthukrishnan (पूर्व सार्जेंट)
    सक्रिय सदस्य IESM

    Election 2009: Vote for a better India

    Criminals in Politics? Come let us all Ensure "No More"
    Date: Mar 16, 2009 5:03 AM
    Subject: Use this MP3 file to Scorn Criminals Fighting Elections
    Let us oppose criminal candidates fielded by any party. Let us condemn them by every means possible, and make them feel worthless. Let us actively arouse public opinion against them. To spread strong vibes against Netas who deserve to be behind bars rather than in Parliament, my friends and I have created this remix-medley in Hindi. Download or Play this song click me
    This medley also takes a dig at citizens who shirk social responsibility. If you like it, please circulate widely. Feedback is welcome.
    Krishnaraj Rao
    We INVITE YOU All to Join Hands for a Better India

    राजनीति में अपराधियों? हमारे "" कोई अतिरिक्त सभी सुनिश्चित करते हैं
    तिथि: मार्च 16, 2009 5:03
    विषय: घिन अपराधी चुनाव लड़ने के लिए इस एमपी 3 फ़ाइल का उपयोग करें
    हमें किसी भी पार्टी ने आपराधिक उम्मीदवार मैदान में विरोध करते हैं. हमें हर संभव तरह से उन्हें निंदा, करते हैं और उन्हें बेकार महसूस करते हैं. हम सक्रिय रूप से उनके खिलाफ जनमत उत्तेजित करते हैं. सलाखों के पीछे नहीं बल्कि संसद में, तुलना करने Netas खिलाफ जो लायक मजबूत वाइब्स प्रसार करने के लिए अपने दोस्तों और मैं इस remix-हिन्दी मिश्रण में पैदा की है. डाउनलोड या प्ले यह गाना मेरे क्लिक करें
    यह मिश्रण भी नागरिकों पर है जो सामाजिक जिम्मेदारी से बच नहीं एक खोदना लेता है. अगर तुम इसे पसंद है, कृपया व्यापक रूप से प्रसारित. आपके सुझाव का स्वागत है.
    गरमी से,
    Krishnaraj राव
    हम तुम्हारे साथ हाथ सभी के लिए एक बेहतर भारत के लिए आमंत्रित

    IESM: Fast for Justice Rally- hundred and tenth day

    Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 10:33 PM
    Dear Colleagues,
    The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
    New Members
    We heartily welcome the following veterans from Mumbai into the IESM family:
    IC 11201Y Brig SK Chaddha, RAJ RIF
    IC 23582X Brig MA Siddiqui,VSM, ENGINEERS
    Maha Rally 12 April 2009
    Preparations for the Maha Rally are continuing. We all have to make it a real big show. Views are already pouring in on what should be our stance for the elections.
    TV Programme
    May like to watch Karan Thapar’s programme on CNBC-18 at:
    1. 2230 hours April 06, 2009
    2. 1630 hours Apr 07, 2009
    Best regards,
    Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    Chairman IESM

    प्रिय साथियों,
    इस Jantar Mantar सक्रिय रहने के लिए जारी है.
    नए सदस्यों
    हम ख़ुशी-ख़ुशी के IESM परिवार में मुंबई से निम्नलिखित दिग्गजों का स्वागत करते हैं:
    आईसी 11201Y ब्रिगेडियर एस के चड्ढा, राजपूताना राइफल्स
    आईसी 23582X ब्रिगेडियर एमए सिद्दीकी, VSM, इंजीनियर
    महा रैली 12 अप्रैल 2009
    इस महा रैली के लिए तैयारियां जारी हैं. हम सब यह एक असली बड़ा शो बनाने के लिए किया है. दर्शाव पहले से ही में जो चुनाव के लिए हमारे दृष्टिकोण होना चाहिए पर डालने का कार्य कर रहे हैं.
    टीवी कार्यक्रम
    मई की तरह सीएनबीसी-18 पर करण थापर के कार्यक्रम देखने के लिए:
    1. 2230 घंटे 06 अप्रैल, 2009
    2. 1630 घंटे अप्रैल 07, 2009
    लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    अध्यक्ष IESM

    ESM: UP election promises- six months elapsed nothing visible

    Panel to redress woes of ex-servicemen soon
    23 Sep 2008, 0444 hrs IST, Rajesh N Singh, TNN

    LUCKNOW: Gearing up for the next Lok Sabha elections, the Bahujan Samaj Party government is eying the large vote bank in retired defence personnel. The government plans to extend all possible help in getting their grievances redressed at the district-level itself.

    It was largely felt that the retired defence personnel face a lot of hardship in getting their ‘just work’ done. Be it an issue related to land dispute or education for their ward, they had to run from pillar to post to get the job done. “In most of the cases it was found that the concerned person, after approaching the officials of the district administration, used to get a standard reply: file shasan gayi hai,” said a senior official in the social welfare department. In view of this fact, the state government has in principle decided to constitute ‘zila sainik bandhu’ in every district of the state by amending the government order issued in July 1999 for extending help to retired defence personnel.

    As per the decision taken, the ‘zila sainik bandhu’ will be headed by the district magistrate with a retired senior defence personnel or a person nominated by the district magistrate as vice-president. The other members of the committee would be the district police chief, chief development officer, additional district magistrate (finance and revenue), chief medical officer, district inspector of schools, district social welfare officer, general manager, zila udyog kendra, treasury officer, district khadi and gramudyog officer, NCC, commanding officer and district employment officer.

    “Besides, two ex-servicemen from every tehsil will be nominated by the DM concerned with district soldier welfare and rehabilitation officer as the member-secretary,” said the official. He said the meeting of the ‘zila sainik bandhu’ would be held every month on the third Saturday to redress the problems related to land dispute, police security, loan from banks, pension, education, medical, financial grant and other complaints by the defence personnel.

    On being contacted, principal secretary, social welfare, Devendra Choudhary confirmed that a GO in that regard would soon be issued. He said once the amended GO was in place, the district magistrate concerned would be held accountable for the suffering of a retired defence personnel or their family members.

    He said the problem being faced by ex-servicemen had to be accorded top priority and its timely disposal would have to be ensured by the committee that would have to maintain a record of applications received for redressal of grievances.
    Panel to redress woes of ex-servicemen soon

    Comment: Over six months have elapsed since the election promise of putting in place "zila sainik bandhu" a new avatar for Ex Servicemen in Uttar Pradesh. Will the bureaucrats set in motion the promises made by Politicians or is it an empty promise to die its natural death like all other promises made by Politicians?

    Sunday, April 5, 2009

    IESM: Invitation to Press for Maha Rally on 12 April 2009 at Jantar Mantar

    Dated: 05 Apr 2009
    Dear Friends,
    1. Press Invitation for Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar New Delhi and return of medals to the President for the 4th time on 12 Apr 2009 at 11 AM is enclosed. May I request all ESM organizations and individual ESM who have any connection/liaison with the media to kindly arrange maximum coverage of the event and give wide publicity.
    2. Friends, neither any Govt functionary has visited Jantar Mantar to talk to us nor has the UPA Govt accepted our long pending demand of One Rank One Pension. This unfair and unjust attitude of the Govt is causing us extreme anguish and dismay. One of the reasons the politicians and bureaucrats give, is that we have no Voting Power. We therefore, need to intensify our Movement to not only press for our demands but also showcase our “power of the Votes”.
    3. Maximum ESM organizations and individual ESM across the country are therefore requested to attend the Maha Rally on 12th Apr 09 at Jantar Mantar New Delhi positively. We should resolve to ensure that in the coming Lok Sabha Elections, only those political parties and individuals will get Defence Personnel Votes who will “Restore our status, respect and accept our demands”. The collective whole of Defence Personnel both serving and veterans must showcase our “Power of the Vote” in such a way that Governments here after give us our due Justice.
    4. Every ESM organization and individual ESM who receive this mail must forward it to as many ESM as possible and also give wide publicity. Please motivate others to attend the Rally on 12 Apr 09 at 11 AM. You should also request our dependents and supporters to attend the Rally and make it a grand success.
    5. IESM is the Movement of all ESM across the country. Friends, numbers matter. May I therefore, request all ESM organizations and individual ESM to become members of IESM at the earliest.
    With regards,
    Jai Hind
    Yours Sincerely,
    Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM

    Dated: 05 Apr 2009

    Ex-Servicemen Maha Rally at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi and Return of Medals To the President for the 4th Time on 12 April 2009 at 11 AM
    Dear Members of the Media,
    1. Today is the 112th day of protest at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi by the Ex Servicemen. Neither any Govt functionary has visited Jantar Mantar to talk to the Ex Servicemen nor has the UPA Govt accepted their long pending demand of One Rank One Pension. It was also surprising to know that the President was not informed of our having deposited medals on 8th and 21st Feb 2009 and that we had sought audience with her.

    2. One of the reasons often heard and perceived for Govt neglect of the serving and retired Defence Personnel is that they have no “voting power”. This unfair and unjust attitude of the Govt has triggered an unprecedented wave of disaffection across the entire Armed Forces, particularly the Ex servicemen who have decided to intensify their Movement throughout the country.

    3. Towards this end a Maha Rally will be held at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi on 12 April 2009 at 11 AM. Ex Servicemen, their dependents and supporters in large numbers from across the country will attend the Rally. Senior Officers in large numbers including former Chiefs are likely to attend the Rally.

    4. We are glad that one major Political Party BJP has finally realised the contribution of the Defence Personnel to the Nation and has included implementation of One Rank One Pension and other commitments favourable to the Defence Services and the Ex Servicemen in their manifesto.

    5. The aim of our Maha Rally is to showcase our “power of the Vote” as also to deposit medals to the Supreme Commander for the fourth time, to express our deep anguish and dismay at our continuing neglect by the present Government. After the Rally, a delegation of Ex servicemen will take the medals to the Rashtrapati Bhavan for handing over to the President at 3.30 PM.

    6. You are requested to cover the event on 12 April 2009 from 11 AM to 3.30 PM at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi.

    With regards,
    Jai Hind
    Yours Sincerely,
    Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
    Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement

    IESM: Fast for Justice Rally- hundred and ninth day

    Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 10:21 PM
    Dear Colleagues,
    The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
    BJP Manifesto
    More details of BJP manifesto are now known. The 49-page document has material relevant to us on Pages 15-16. A Regimental Brigadier I ran into during the evening walk, has two sons in the Army. He tells me of celebrations their unit officers are already having on the income tax exemption. Even though officer-centric (now may also cover JCOs after 6th PC), it is a great psychological shot in the arm. BJP Manifesto: click here
    For the veterans, the most significant line is at Para 3 (d) of the Section titled ‘DEFENDING INDIA No Compromise, No Concession’. It reads – “The principle of one rank, one pension will be implemented.”
    Best regards,
    Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    Chairman IESM

    तिथि: शनिवार, 4 अप्रैल, 2009, 10:21
    प्रिय साथियों,
    इस Jantar Mantar सक्रिय रहने के लिए जारी है.
    भाजपा के घोषणा पत्र
    भाजपा के घोषणा पत्र के अतिरिक्त विवरण अब जाना जाता है. इस 49 पृष्ठों का दस्तावेज पेज 15-16 पर सामग्री हमारे लिए प्रासंगिक है. एक रेजिमेंटल ब्रिगेडियर मैं में शाम टहलने के दौरान, भागा सेना में दो बेटे हैं. उसने मुझे अपनी इकाई के अधिकारियों को पहले से ही आयकर छूट पर कर रहे हैं समारोह के बताता है. हालांकि अधिकारी केन्द्रित (अब भी 6. पीसी के बाद), यह हाथ में एक महान मनोवैज्ञानिक शॉट है जेसीओ को कवर कर सकते हैं. भाजपा के घोषणा पत्र: क्लिक करें यहाँ
    के दिग्गजों के लिए, सबसे अधिक महत्वपूर्ण लाइन पैरा 3 में है (घ) की धारा 'का बचाव भारत कोई समझौता नहीं, कोई रियायत' शीर्षक से. यह पढ़ता है - "एक पद के सिद्धांत, एक पेंशन लागू किया जाएगा."
    लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (Emeritus) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
    अध्यक्ष IESM

    BJP Manifesto Rider
    The points and assurances in the BJP manifesto concerning Services will carry weight only if they are in consonance with the thinking of the other partners of NDA... The elections are being fought as NDA jointly by the opposition. The assurances raise serious concerns about the financial effects and the capability of the country to make the resources available.
    Brig Lakshman Singh VSM (Retd)

    IESM: Pension disbursement by Banks are chaotic and inaccurate

    Number of pensioners is approximately is 21,29,000

    1/ COMMISSIONED OFFICER/ 35,805/ 12,581/ 48,386
    2/ PBOR/ 11,75,902/ 4,13,155/ 15,89,057
    3/ DEFENCE CIVILIAN/ 3,63,713/ 1,27,790/ 4,91,503
    GRAND TOTAL/ 15,75,420/ 5,53,526/ 21,28,946

    Source: Defence Pension Guide by PCDA(P) Allahabad- Click here

    1. The main role of banks is to accept deposits from the public and lend it to the needy public. The difference between the rates of interest paid to the depositors and the interest charged from the borrowers is the profit earned by the banks. Modern commercial banks undertake lot of business initiatives with the aim of earning profit in many ways, which the common people cannot understand. Even the advanced countries today face financial crunch because of the different types of lending which has no guaranteed return.

    2. The disbursement of pension to millions of pensioners is undertaken by banks on commission basis. Even the salaries of thousands and thousands of government and private sector employees are disbursed by banks because of the advancement of information technology. Disbursement of pension requires certain amount knowledge on pension matters. Unlike DPDOs and Treasuries, the Banks are not having well trained personnel for handling these pensions. But the volume of pension transactions done by the banks are more than the DPDOs and Treasuries.

    3. Repeated operations like payment of monthly pension on specified dates, and payment of dearness relief to the pensioners have been improved a lot by centralizing the pension payment and by using advanced information technology (Core Banking Solution)

    4. However, the banks are finding it difficult in revising the pension and payment of correct arrears to the defence pensioners. Even out-sourcing the 6th CPC pension revision work for the defence pensioners is not successful because of the incorrect basic data base about the defence pensioners with the bank. The Defence Pension Sanctioning Authorities and the Ministry of Defence also does not pay much attention towards perfect implementation of their orders by the banks. The PCDA(P) Allahabad is handling around 22 lakh defence pensions. There is no proper reconciliation of defence pension payment accounts with the banks. The budget provisions are not overdrawn in case of defence pension. Therefore the agencies involved in monitoring the expenses are not worried.

    5. While the MOD and PCDA(P) Allahabad, are keeping mum, only the Banks and pensioners face the crunch. We hope the banks in due course will somehow improve the pension payment system of its own by out-sourcing it to experts. Let us hope for the best.
    Yours sincerely,
    C Muthukrishnan (Ex Sgt)
    Active member IESM.


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